First of all, I’m not sure this is the best community for this, so if you think there is a more suitable one, please inform me.

So I’ve been looking for manufacturers that sell computers with Linux out of the box and I remembered hearing about Tuxedo Computers. Some people seem to really like them, but I’ve also heard of some people complaining about them too.

And so I’ve come here to ask this community what are your experiences with this vendor? Is there somewhere else I should look? Thanks in advance.

  • BusyBoredom@lemmy.ml
    9·
    10 hours ago

    Not trying to be disingenuous, I have a framework 13 and I love it. Just pointing out some real tradeoffs with it that folks ought to be made aware of.

    You can get a lenovo or a dell or something else with the same specs for cheaper if you’re willing to give up repairability. I’m not, so I have a framework, but that’s not everyone.

    For firmware support, the 12 gen frameworks still haven’t received a single stable update on Linux since launch despite known vulnerabilities. That’s an ongoing issue, its not fixed. For some people in security a critical environments, that’s a deal breaker. Similarly the 13th gen only got 1 stable update on linux and the ryzen 300s (which I have now) again have started to get vulns reported but no patches yet.

    Most vendors patch vulnerabilities according to the coordinated disclosure, and framework doesn’t. Not saying framework is the devil or anything, just that there’s a real tradeoff for some people.

      • BusyBoredom@lemmy.ml
        111·
        9 hours ago

        Unfortunately no, that is only for installation via windows. There is no Linux updater for it. Still no stable update on Linux for the 12th gen :(

        Edit: oh nice actually I see they added an EFI updater! That’s great progress :) so I stand corrected – 3 years after launch, it got its first and only stable update on linux! Thanks for the correction.

          • BusyBoredom@lemmy.ml
            2·
            8 hours ago

            Correct they do not, there are components on some models (like the 12th gen) that they do not support updating using fwupd. You must use either EFI updater or update from windows to get the full update on those platforms.