The vote orchestrated by a group of far-right lawmakers leaves the House without leadership. The speaker was unable to manage a bitter power struggle within the Republican Party.
This is objectively false. One party deals entirely in culture warfare with no idea how to govern. The other at least tries to interface with real world problems.
All this “we” shit smacks entirely too much of cis het white middle class privelage
I would add that it depends on context and what specifically the democrats and republicans are being compared on.
There is a subgroup of each party that really is effectively the same in that they are non-ideological and only want to maintain the status quo, putting up the appearance of being at odds while actually working together to protect the corporate money hose.
It’s this group that makes “both sides” so effective as rhetoric because, while Democrats do genuinely represent a direction with some glimmer of hope and they do have people who are genuinely concerned with improving government, it only takes a few instances of these “bipartisan” corporate middlemen to keep fueling the bothsides narrative.
@Zorque@chloyster@hallettj@downpunxx But is it? Why must we vote for evil in degrees every time? Why can’t we say “let’s look into these perceptions without having to agree with them wholesale?” Why are we killing and dying for ideas?
We’re more than just pawns on this socio/economic/political chessboard. But who am I to demand that things be any different. What am I even contributing?
Caring for the people? Sounds like woke radical leftist Marxist propaganda (actual shit I hear on a daily basis).
The Republican party could stop trying to hurt people at any moment. Hell, I’m in a red state and our last Republican governor wasn’t too bad. But it’s all just hate now. And anyone who opposes that hate gets more hate from people like you.
The Republican party can stop denying women the right to control their bodies, stop denying science, stop censoring history, and stop othering anyone but Christian Cis Het White people any time they feel like it.
But they won’t, because that’s their entire political identity. I ought to know; I was one of them for 20 some odd years.
@CylustheVirus No, that isn’t their entire history. I’m sorry you’ve been convinced by corporate and blasphemous malcontents within the economical and religious underbelly of the many American cults within.
Their history matters exactly zero compared to what they are doing now. Knowing that Republicans used to be the less shitty party but then it switched is academic.
@hallettj @chloyster Until we stop using politics as a tool to punish each other, get used to more chaos and pain.
This is objectively false. One party deals entirely in culture warfare with no idea how to govern. The other at least tries to interface with real world problems.
All this “we” shit smacks entirely too much of cis het white middle class privelage
Nah, it’s just the usual “both sides are bad” false equivalence bullshit.
Both sides are bad, but they are not equivalent, and we indeed shouldn’t flatten the landscape.
In the interest of being constructive, what do you propose is the best way to voice this opinion off-handedly?
“Both sides are terrible, but at least one doesn’t wanna kill me.”
Or similar. Just damn the Dems with faint praise.
I would add that it depends on context and what specifically the democrats and republicans are being compared on.
There is a subgroup of each party that really is effectively the same in that they are non-ideological and only want to maintain the status quo, putting up the appearance of being at odds while actually working together to protect the corporate money hose.
It’s this group that makes “both sides” so effective as rhetoric because, while Democrats do genuinely represent a direction with some glimmer of hope and they do have people who are genuinely concerned with improving government, it only takes a few instances of these “bipartisan” corporate middlemen to keep fueling the bothsides narrative.
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It smacks of a belief that to pull through this, the majority of us need to figure out how to get along.
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yes yes both sides of course, both sides
Yes yes, mustn’t criticize the lesser evil, mustn’t criticize.
@Zorque @chloyster @hallettj @downpunxx But is it? Why must we vote for evil in degrees every time? Why can’t we say “let’s look into these perceptions without having to agree with them wholesale?” Why are we killing and dying for ideas?
We’re more than just pawns on this socio/economic/political chessboard. But who am I to demand that things be any different. What am I even contributing?
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Caring for the people? Sounds like woke radical leftist Marxist propaganda (actual shit I hear on a daily basis).
The Republican party could stop trying to hurt people at any moment. Hell, I’m in a red state and our last Republican governor wasn’t too bad. But it’s all just hate now. And anyone who opposes that hate gets more hate from people like you.
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You’re on Beehaw. These type of comments aren’t acceptable here. Be(e) nice or take it elsewhere.
The Republican party can stop denying women the right to control their bodies, stop denying science, stop censoring history, and stop othering anyone but Christian Cis Het White people any time they feel like it.
But they won’t, because that’s their entire political identity. I ought to know; I was one of them for 20 some odd years.
@CylustheVirus No, that isn’t their entire history. I’m sorry you’ve been convinced by corporate and blasphemous malcontents within the economical and religious underbelly of the many American cults within.
Their history matters exactly zero compared to what they are doing now. Knowing that Republicans used to be the less shitty party but then it switched is academic.