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herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml to World News@lemmy.ml · 4 days ago

Almost 100,000 young men flee Ukraine in two months

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herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml to World News@lemmy.ml · 4 days ago
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    It’s a genocide by its definition.

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      No, it is not. Not all war is genocide.

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        It is when you commit acts of genocide.

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          UN finds no genocide. Genocide is genocide when there’s genocide, yes, but there’s no genocide in Ukraine so there’s no genocide in Ukraine.

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            That link is empty for me. But is this also the same commission that found no evidence of genocide in Gaza for 2 years?

            There is genocide in Ukraine.

            Russia had kidnapped thousands of children in the first year of war - removing them from their families and forcing them in to Russian schools and the older children are being trained in the military to fight.

            Russia in the first days of the way when they captured many towns and cities, the troops took down signage and symbols of Ukraine. They target hospitals and schools and playgrounds with no regard. They fire their missiles and drones indiscriminately.

            Edit/ Also that Russia does not believe Ukraine exists and tries to deny the national identity of Ukraine - that’s an act of genocide This is widely reported.

            I don’t understand why you can hand wave the violence of Russia and justify their invasion.

            Russia have done a lot of what Israel has done if not more.

            I want the war to end and an end to the Palestine conflict. The only way is with the removal of the heads of states to be tried for war crimes, and the full removal of all forces.

            But that is a fantasy world apparently. Your friends in Russia can save face, money and man power by just getting the fuck out.

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              No, this is fantasy. I’m not hand waiving anything, you’re parroting unsubstantiated claims. Stories like kidnapping children are especially unsubstantiated.

              The war will end when Ukraine concedes. No matter how much materiel NATO donates, it cannot win, and the war is increasingly unpopular.

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                I can say the same for you.

                Are you in Russias pocket to be parroting their fantastical claims?

                Why should Ukraine concede?

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                  No, I’m not parroting fantastical claims, nor am I paid to have a sober analysis of the Russo-Ukrainian War. You cannot say the same for me. Ukraine should concede (as they should have done when they had the chance a few months into the war) because they can’t win, and all they are doing is getting more of themselves killed. That’s why the war is increasingly unpopular, and Kiev relies on forced conscription.

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                    Yes, you are. You just don’t see it apparently. You are repeating talking points from right wing Russia aligned media.

                    What is your opinion on the Israeli invasion of Palestine? Should Palestine just cede Gaza to end the war?

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                https://nypost.com/2025/11/01/world-news/ukrainian-intelligence-identified-locations-of-339-abducted-children-and-compiling-list-of-russians-responsible-tried-to-erase-their-identities/

                I bet you will claim this is lies.

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                  Reports from Ukrainian intelligence, sure, not actual verified proof of erasing Ukrainian identity nor of kidnapping. Do you just trust Israel whenever it claims Hamas is torturing babies? Did you believe the story about Saddam’s forces removing babies from incubators? You need verified proof before belief.

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                    You trust everything Russia says though.

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                    Hers a simple google search for you. Many sources.

                    https://www.google.com/search?q=ukraine+children+kidnapped&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-gb#ip=1

                    the Wikipedia link, yourself having linked Wikipedia earlier

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_abductions_in_the_Russo-Ukrainian_war

                    With the United Nations stating this is a war crime

                    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-64985009

                    https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/documents/hrbodies/hrcouncil/coiukraine/A_HRC_52_62_AUV_EN.pdf

                    Tangential to this, I quite enjoy this young man’s recount of the conflict https://youtu.be/jlTnKYTxWOY

                    But I bet this is all “right wing propaganda” somehow.

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