It pops up all the time, it’s a waste of time and I’m sure it has been used countless of times to discard some piece of information. It doesn’t add up anything productive to the comments, people who comment don’t even say anything they actually think they just “did you know that MBFC says this so it has to be truth?” I could go on but I think you get the idea.

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    your reading critically thing

    I don’t think the obvious insinuation is fair to you, but I want to point out that this is an extremely funny turn of phrase.

    I’m getting more suspicious of you after this emotional plea. What sorts sources are you upset have these comments

    Speaking of unfair, I don’t think this comment is either. Calling that comment an “emotional plea” worth raising your suspicions is absurd. There’s not even that much of an emotional affectation and certainly there is no appeal to emotion in place of a valid argument. What is “emotional”? That you can infer he has a feeling on the subject? Come on. Furthermore, RedWizard is an upstanding guy from everything I’ve seen of him, and I think it’s just that some of us are really sick of MBFC tacitly question-begging the center being unbiased and people in some spaces always using it to attack anything source left of CNN, a behavior we’ve watched or been subjected to for several years now.

    Trying to explain it in terms of how you frame things: You are right when you said elsewhere that people only have so much time to read through various sources, so polluting the space with something that has been long established to be bullshit is detrimental to having more people come to more reasonable conclusions, and this is something that I’m sure you would agree to if it was a source that you really accepted at least that level of criticism for (e.g. it would be a negative for the site to get a deluge of links to flat Earth websites). That is why “adding more information is worse.” If it’s about putting something in an archive, then by all means put whatever you like in the archive so we have it for reference, but for these sorts of fleeting discussions, it is obviously harmful.

    To be clear though, I don’t support banning it on the basis that the liberals who fancy that .ml is oppressing them are already so annoying and this would give them another thing to make constant complaints about. I think we should just have a bot response tagged on to comments that link to the site.

    Edit: RW does make more emotional comments elsewhere, but again not appealing to emotion, so I don’t think the criticism rises above the most absurd of tone-policing.

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      I don’t think the obvious insinuation is fair to you, but I want to point out that this is an extremely funny turn of phrase.

      As in “You can read critically but for me, fuck that” is pretty funny to interject into this conversation? I almost edited it to be clearer and closer to “People can and do still read critically, you know that set of words people seem to be latching onto with questionable usage”

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      Calling that comment an “emotional plea” worth raising your suspicions is absurd.

      Yeah, emotional was the wrong word although, like your edit gets at, it might apply to later comments. I’m about to leave the conversation but something like a preaching continued push might be closer. I’m lazy to reread the thread properly, I’m sure I have enough faults in it too

      But, the raising suspicions is fair. It was a continued push of someone towards a viewpoint, very quick to presume my views, on recycled arguments and that is usually for me pretty suspicious