• lath@piefed.social
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    2 days ago

    They usually don’t and have to be “broken in”.

    For those few that do so naturally, it’s more of a proto-symbiotic relationship where the rider helps provide food and safety, so they’re kept around as a pet or dumb kid.
    Also, if a predator wants to bite you, having something on your back to throw at them as a distraction can be pretty damn helpful.

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      1 day ago

      That explains why my Red Dead horses always buck me off. To give their carnivorous friends a treat while they gallop away. Sonofabitch Rockstar, you did it again

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        Way to self report that you’re a bad digital horse caretaker, lol.

        Look, they bothered to actually model horse testicular shrinkage in very cold weather.

        They have a set of systems designed to gauge how much your horse trusts you, and how well you treat it, whether or not you ride it into having a heart attack or not.

        … They honestly did a shockingly good job of portraying at least some of the idiosyncracies of what its like to actually train and ride a horse.

        Kinda analagous to how only a few milsim/tac shooters actually get close to portraying a bunch of the idiosyncracies that the vast majority of shooter games don’t bother with, but are actually pretty important when using an actual gun.


        A thing that often gets left out of video game depictions of horses: they are actually kinda stupid and will do dumb shit fairly often, if not well trained and ridden by a skilled rider.

        (And even then, they’ll still occasionally do nonsensically dumb things)

        Like uh, one thing they could have easily done in RDR2, to be more realistic, but chose not to because it would likely be too annoying to most players:

        You should pretty much never, ever, ride a horse along the inside of a railroad track, with all the alternating ties.

        You should absolutely never get a horse up to a canter or gallop in the middle of a railroad track.

        Not primarily because an unexpected train could cause them to freak out and do something stupid.

        But because they are basically guaranteed to trip on the railroad ties, and eventually either stumble, crumple, throw you off, or break their own legs.


        Horses will run full speed into a fucking tree and basically kill themselves (and potentially the rider as well), if you command them to and they trust you, or, if they are just sufficiently spooked.

        They’ll have weird little quirks like ‘fuck you, i am not going to step in this specific puddle’, for no apparent reason.

        The people I used to know who regularly did foxhunts, they would have their horses fairly often try to duck under a low branch… entirely not considering that they have a human on their back, who would then be clothes-lined by that branch.

        Shit like that.

        Having some dumb horse decision lead to nearly or actually getting thrown from a horse was… more or less, kinda like the way motorcycle guys talk about laying down their bike: It’s basically an inevitability that it’ll happen to you at some point, so you train for how to deal with it when it happens.


        But anyway lol, yeah the horse rearing up on its hind legs is an instictual reaction to a predator in front of them.

        They probably aren’t actually smart enough to work through the logic of ‘i just have to faster than the human, not the wolves or the bear’. They’re probably just terrified, and the override kicks in in their brain, and it says ‘rear up and trample the bad things’.

        That that throws off the human rider probably actually does not occur to them.

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        The default setting in a horse’s mind is to not allow anything on its back. They will bite and kick you if you try. However, there is a clever way to change that setting, as ancient humans had discovered.

        Horses are different from many other animals, such as zebras. Horses are clearly more malleable. That default setting can be changed if you’re skilled and patient enough. With zebras though, the setting to bite and kick is pretty much hard coded.

        Some animals, such as camels and llamas can also be tamed and even ridden, but they will always know their position in the tier list of life i.e. way above all humans. They will tolerate humans up to a certain point, but once their patience runs out, the unfortunate human in their immediate vicinity will feel it in their skin. These animals are a bit like cats, but 10x more dangerous.