Oh no, the youngins are on their “if no one talks about it, the corpos won’t know” delusion again.
Security through obscurity isn’t security, and plenty of sites have survived longer than most of you have been pirating despite coverage by actual news organizations. Your least (or most) favorite youtuber (or forum, or guide, or wiki) isn’t moving the needle.
If you aren’t part of the actual scene that’s sourcing shit for day 0 (or earlier) upload you have nothing to worry about regarding open discussion through psuedonymous social media. Or people making youtube videos. Or guides etc.
Pirate sites and fan projects that get shut down weren’t going to last anyway. Real ones arr either set up to last or find a way to continue. Like Pirate Bay and AM2R.
Okay so the corpos know… But compared to power users and then giving that same information to Joe Nobody who had no idea these things existed…that forces them to be a lot more aggressive because now you have “mainstream” attention
Hence my mention about Pirate Bay. There were multiple mainstream news stories about it. Multiple of the founders were unmasked and put on trial, but the site was constructed so that it kept running. It is still running to this day, despite it no longer being the face of piracy that it was long ago.
Edit: In more recent news/sites, Anna’s Archive. They have yet another lawsuit against them that isn’t going to amount to anything but maybe a few more domain names going down because none of the people operating it have been able to be unmasked.
I never said that and you’re wildly missing my point. If the person running your site hasn’t run things in a way that they can tank some news coverage, it was doomed from the start.
Take this very lemmy instance. The public facing load balancer they currently use is hosted in France. They aren’t revealing anything beyond that and anythung further isn’t something that can be reasonably found by anyone not involved with the systems administration side of things for the instance. The admins are careful to practice proper opsec as well, not revealing their home country.
You can find all sorts of writeups about countless less than legal sites and projects, both ones that survived and ones that died. Not a single dead one is dead because of attention. Most are dead because the people running it made some mistake that allowed authorities to find their real identity so they could be prosecuted. Or because of internal drama. Or rising costs, like myrient which is closing the end of this month.
The last time I even remember private trackers being taken down was in the days of Oink.UK and What.CD.
Oink was shut down in 2007 and What was shut down in 2016, both mostly because they had grown so big they were hard to ignore. A lot of modern sites keep an upper limit on the accounts they allow to prevent too much growth and attracting attention.
Hell, I remember baconBits having an upper limit of less than 10,000 accounts. Once that limit was reached, you couldn’t even send out invites.
Also, public trackers that were huge like RARBG survived until finances shut them down, via COVID and the war in Ukraine, they were never taken down forcibly, and they were massive and widely used.
Oh no, the youngins are on their “if no one talks about it, the corpos won’t know” delusion again.
Security through obscurity isn’t security, and plenty of sites have survived longer than most of you have been pirating despite coverage by actual news organizations. Your least (or most) favorite youtuber (or forum, or guide, or wiki) isn’t moving the needle.
If you aren’t part of the actual scene that’s sourcing shit for day 0 (or earlier) upload you have nothing to worry about regarding open discussion through psuedonymous social media. Or people making youtube videos. Or guides etc.
Pirate sites and fan projects that get shut down weren’t going to last anyway. Real ones arr either set up to last or find a way to continue. Like Pirate Bay and AM2R.
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Okay so the corpos know… But compared to power users and then giving that same information to Joe Nobody who had no idea these things existed…that forces them to be a lot more aggressive because now you have “mainstream” attention
Hence my mention about Pirate Bay. There were multiple mainstream news stories about it. Multiple of the founders were unmasked and put on trial, but the site was constructed so that it kept running. It is still running to this day, despite it no longer being the face of piracy that it was long ago.
Edit: In more recent news/sites, Anna’s Archive. They have yet another lawsuit against them that isn’t going to amount to anything but maybe a few more domain names going down because none of the people operating it have been able to be unmasked.
There’s some irony in that you still think the Pirate Bay has some use in today’s way of pirating. Okay, grandpa, you’re out of nursing home curfew.
I never said that and you’re wildly missing my point. If the person running your site hasn’t run things in a way that they can tank some news coverage, it was doomed from the start.
Take this very lemmy instance. The public facing load balancer they currently use is hosted in France. They aren’t revealing anything beyond that and anythung further isn’t something that can be reasonably found by anyone not involved with the systems administration side of things for the instance. The admins are careful to practice proper opsec as well, not revealing their home country.
You can find all sorts of writeups about countless less than legal sites and projects, both ones that survived and ones that died. Not a single dead one is dead because of attention. Most are dead because the people running it made some mistake that allowed authorities to find their real identity so they could be prosecuted. Or because of internal drama. Or rising costs, like myrient which is closing the end of this month.
The last time I even remember private trackers being taken down was in the days of Oink.UK and What.CD.
Oink was shut down in 2007 and What was shut down in 2016, both mostly because they had grown so big they were hard to ignore. A lot of modern sites keep an upper limit on the accounts they allow to prevent too much growth and attracting attention.
Hell, I remember baconBits having an upper limit of less than 10,000 accounts. Once that limit was reached, you couldn’t even send out invites.
Also, public trackers that were huge like RARBG survived until finances shut them down, via COVID and the war in Ukraine, they were never taken down forcibly, and they were massive and widely used.