• zxqwas@lemmy.world
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    9 hours ago

    Your question makes no sense.

    No, you’re not viewed as terrorists. You’re viewed as allies that will get dragged into a war on our side if we get attacked by Russia.

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      a war on our side if we get attacked by Russia

      You must have been in a coma for the last year or so. USA under Trump is more likely to attack Greenland than to help Europe fighting Russia.

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        Trump taco. He did not move any troops or metal towards greenland. When he does not move troops he does not intend to attack, he intends to move the opinion.

        My guess why he did that (greenland and threaten to not aid NATO): He wanted to push the European opinion towards “fuck you we will spend more on our own military”.

        The opinion of every US administration the last decades, Obama, Biden, Trump has been that Europe should spend more on defense instead of relying on US. Trump achieves this goal by being obnoxious and hated and ironically the complete lack of diplomatic skill.

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          Stop attributing tactical thinking to trump. It’s clearly not in his ouvre. If Trump wanted NATO to be better prepared for a Russian advance, he wouldn’t be undermining zelensjynor sucking outings cock on the regular

          He’s obnoxious because he’s an obnoxious narcissist. There is no point to it.

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            This is not Trump thinking. This is done by career bureaucrats in the pentagon that are not political appointees.

            They publish documents of US Defense policy every few years. Basically saying that China and Taiwan is the most important issue for US. Europe should spend the money to defend Europe so that US can focus on east Asia. The contents have gone largely unchanged for the last few administrations.

            For whatever reason you want to give for Trumps actions are in line with what the documents say. Venezuela and Iran are minor players that support China. Europe is spending more on defense than ever before.

            The difference with Trump vs Biden is Trump seems more likely to take risks by kidnapping Maduro, bombing Iran, pissing off Europe.

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              US policy was also to have witnesses to any meetings with Putin. And to not store classified documents in a bathroom at a hotel of ill repute.

              Trump is not playing 5D chess to advance America’s interests. He’s shitting on the board while squalking. The only interest he has any mind to advance is his own. There is not an ounce of patriotism or duty in his body.

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          Trump taco.

          He attacked Venezuela and Iran, so there is that 🙄

          The opinion of every US administration the last decades, Obama, Biden, Trump has been that Europe should spend more on defense instead of relying on US

          Yes, but only the very last one sided with Russia against democratic countries. And explicitly said they would want to dismantle EU.

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            He moved metal and troops into position. He did not start moving anything towards greenland.

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                Your retort to my taco reply was that he did Venezuela and Iran.

                You can figure out when he is doing a taco and when he is actually threatening a war. Greenland rhetoric was not accompanied by troop movement.

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          The opinion of every US administration the last decades, Obama, Biden, Trump has been that Europe should spend more on defense instead of relying on US.

          The US makes weapons, sell weapons, and controls the countries they sell those weapons to. Trump doesn’t get any of that and broke the control that US had on everyone. He’s the reason countries suddenly started getting worried that the US could turn off the planes they sold them whenever they wanted. The US has bases in every country, and Trump is the reason people are suddenly getting worried about them.

          When they used to say Europe should spend more, it’s by buying American.

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        Trump clearly threatened not to come to aid of NATO countries that don’t spend the agreed % of GDP. If he did not intend to come to aid of any NATO country he would leave the alliance.

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          If it isn’t a 100% guaranteed non-negotiable that they WILL aid their global partners, that it might be conditional, means that it cannot be assumed to be there, and is no longer dependable. It’d just be an ally piling in at best, if we’re lucky and the current goomba-in-chief is a friendly one.

          Its an absolute loss of soft power.

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          To many it seems that he is set to destroy NATO not by leaving it but by showing that he won’t get involved in the agreements made