The head of Iran’s parliamentary committee on national security and foreign policy said that by providing drone support to Israel, Ukraine has “effectively become involved in the war.”
Zelenskyy earlier stated that Kyiv has already deployed interceptor drones and a team of specialists to help protect US military bases in Jordan.
Iranian soldiers operated the drones sent by a demand of a genocidal ethnostate to bomb Ukraine. This is not giving instructions, this is participation in the war.
Now, because of involvement of these chaps, Ukraine has a technology that is in high demand in the world, for whatever reason. It’s very single cellular to assume that the technology is not scalable, and that literally every person who can be involved in scaling of a technology must be digging trench somewhere in Donetsk.
When did you decide you would just say things, meaning be damned?
Zelensky supports nazis and child fukers and child killers. Means in retrograde it was a right choice by Iran
So I guess genocide is ok? Wow that down, you pedigree chum.
Ukraine isn’t being genocided. Only the regime is being changed.
The only genocide happening is in Gaza and now Lebanon.
Do you mind defining what a genocide is?
Do you? Define ethno state while you’re at it
Zelensky is a zionist
Talking about a genocidal ethnostate is pretty rich in a thread defending Israel and its allies
Israel and USA can go and fuck themselves with a bomb shaped dildo for all I care.
But it’s they are not the only one committing genocide, and your mates from around here are making it very weird turning people suffering into genocide Olympics.
Okay, so we can agree that Israel and the US are evil.
So. What does it say about Ukraine that they are on the same side?
This is not some comic book battle between good and evil, it is perfectly possible for both USA, Israel and Russia to be evil, they are all expansionist imperial entities currently engaging in imperial land grabs. I would say they are all evil.
Ukraine and Iran were just minding their own business when the imperialists attacked. USA, Russia and Israel are all on the same shitty side of the coin. The rest of the world hates the lot of them.
Ukraine had a fascist coup and their government was literally chosen by the US imperialists.
After that they started killing 14000 ethnic Russians in the east who wanted nothing to do with these nazis.
It’s perfectly possible for all the parties to be evil.
Many things wrong with Putin, imperialism is not one of them.
Pretty hard to mind your own business when NATO keeps expanding and they would’ve placed nukes on their border, too close to defend against.
How would the US like it if Russia couped Mexico and put nukes in Tijuana?
I must have missed that one, maybe one man’s popular revolution is another man’s fascist coup. The numbers who participated in the protests turned revolution in Ukraine in 2014 are estimated at between 400,000-800,000.
You call it a fascist coup but how come power has peacefully and democratically changed hands 3 times since? Doesn’t really make sense now does it buddy? Now, how many times has power changed hands in Russia in the same timeframe?
You are peddling the same tired talking points from 4 years ago, even Putin and his stooges have stopped using them because they sound ridiculous. The biggest cause of NATO expansion is Russia’s belligerence, where it not for this war, Finland and Sweden would never have joined NATO.
Just because his imperialism doesn’t bother you it doesn’t make his imperialism ok, I am definitely against it.
Totally not fascist, right.
Hanging cool flags in parliament to celebrate on the right, their sponsors on the left.
Somehow they didn’t show that on the news in our free and democratic west and with its objective reporting.
Maybe you missed the Nuland-Pyatt call too where the US literally orders who would be in their government.
Democratic and normal education these days, no nazis in ukraine because one of manyfascist batalions changed their logo a bit and magically stopped being nazis .
You are peddling the same tired nazi whitewashing talking points.
How come your beloved 3 democratic governments never stopped murdering civilians in the east or honored the accords?
Wouldn’t be because no matter what puppet they have they still do what the master tells them to do, die for the USSA to own the Russians. Russia expanded nowhere and and the claims of imperialism are fiction to suit your narrative.
This proxy war has backfired gigantically and helped expediate the decline of the US, made Russia stronger and forged alliances between many countries that don’t bend to the tirants will.
So that’s great news besides the many deaths.
I’m glad the US is circling the drain and losing power rapidly everywhere.
And now making another dumb mistake taking on Iran.
So you can keep on defending ukronazis, the good friends of shitraeli babykillers and US babykillers , nothing you say or think will change that.
But maybe it helps you sleep at night,
Yes your videos of some dude putting up a flag somewhere should count just as much as the peaceful transfer of power in 3 democratic elections. Your propaganda points are absolute slop my man, try harder.
You seem to think that the Ukrainian government is murdering civilians in a vacuum in eastern Ukraine. Have some balls and acknowledge the Russian “little green men” campaigns with the girkin and his band of fools who ended up shooting down a commercial passenger plane with Russian supplied weaponry. You won’t though because you are a coward. The USA was not the only country messing around with Ukrainian sovereignty.
Good
Lol, by draining their sovereign wealth fund, stocks of weaponry and the blood of their people when they are already in a demographic crisis. Delicious copium.
Who, north Korea? Haha. China are not allied to Russia and neither are India. Russia has lost Venezuela and Syria as allies and Iran are now finding out that being allied to Russia is worthless.
I’m also not from Israel or the USA, they are baby killers true just like Putin. All cut from the same cloth, imperial scum the lot of them.
It’s impossible to fight the entire world all at once. I say we choose the lesser evil.
It’s how you vote anyway, right? Why not just apply that on a larger scale?
Your comment implies that it is a binary choice. Lesser evil between the USA, Israel and Russia is a difficult shout, there is a cigarette paper between the three.
The three are also not the same, the USA is a far bigger threat to the world due to its military and financial might. Russia and Israel are not eating at the same table. It could probably be argued that they have the most twisted world views of the players here and I am very glad they are not in the conversation. China and the EU are the only other potentially global players. The EU are the USA’s yes men who have been greatly upset to recently be told this reality to their face. China look to be an alternative but when you peel back the veneer they are closer to the USA in their set up than most people would care to admit.
The lesser evil one is a difficult argument to make, do you believe if either Israel or Russia occupied the USA’s position as global hegemon that they would be better or worse?
My comment implies there is a primary contradiction, and the choice is between US hegemony and multipolarity.
There is an empire, and only once it is destroyed can we even begin dealing with any of the lesser contradictions.
There are several empires, American one is just the most powerful. The way the Chinese and the Russians treat their people does not give me hope that their empires would act any differently. Britain and France have shown they are not to be trusted either based on their past atrocities.
Would mutipolarity make things better or worse? I don’t think that it matters, the fundamental nature of power and nation states make conflict and war inevitable. A multipolar world would likely make conflict more common. Can you name any wars of aggression that have honestly been done to improve the position of the country and its people and not just the elites? Vertical power structures are the problem, I would happily see the USA lose its position as hegemon but multipolarity won’t change much.
The logical conclusion every country should be looking towards now should be acquiring nukes. Maybe this is the path to peace.
Russia is not a genocidal ethnostate. Go look at the percentage of civilian casualties in the Ukraine war and the percentage in Gaza and then learn what terms mean. Russia does commit “war crimes” (whatever that word means nowadays) but they are most certainly not committing genocide.
Well they have been force-adopting ukranian chilfren into Russia, no? I am sure i read something about that. Not as cruel but still genocide i guess?
Keep children in a safe place during war is much better than keeping them among military targets and bombing them.
Not really, that was a hoax, Russia asked Ukraine for list of names, Ukraine provided 339 names of which 166 was immediately found living with their parents in Germany. And even if we assume all the rest are really unaccounted for, this only points how low civilian losses are in that war, something unthinkable looking at American or Israeli wars.
We really don’t need to make Israel and the USA look worse here, they are achieving that on their own. I was solely talking about the claim of Russia not commiting genocide at all. There has been a bunch of reports on stuff happening in the occupied territories, i’d be carefull protecting them from genocide allegations.
I also really don’t want to take up a huge-ass discussion over this in a random forum over text.
Oh wow, reports? On stuff? How very convincing.
Funny how you tried to actually present a specific claim, immediately got proven wrong, and are now retreating to unfalsifiable vagueness.
Funny that you think the Ukrainian startup model is scalable. Neither is the USonian drone program. Iran could kill every US soldier allegedly being deployed with a single drone each and it wouldn’t even cut into their stockpile.