• MoogleMaestro@lemmy.zip
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    13 hours ago

    I think that technology like Tailscale has sold me on the concept of on-internet intranets, as in subnets with extreme firewall policies that doesn’t prevent you from accessing the broader net when necessary but gives network maintainers strict control on how their networks are bridged. I’ve been thinking about this to the degree that I’ve been trying to do more research into how this can be achieved with open source technologies like Headscale.

    Ideally, you’d want to have a peer-to-peer relay server option for bridging multiple “trusted” networks which would then provide a broad DNS resolution to let you access services that are advertised for bridged networks. So it would be like if, via tailscale, I could connect to another person’s tailnet using specific domain names if those services were exposed via a “bridge node”, so to speak.

    Tailscale themselves have no reason to implement this though; As a business, they would actually prefer you buy larger client counts. I don’t blame them for this, it’s the basis of their business. But I think, long term, multiple intranets will be really important for digital sovereignty for both smaller nation states and individuals. We can no longer trust the broad web as it was. The fediverse is the first step, the next is tighter meta-networks in tandem with federated internet services.

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      8 hours ago

      Reticulum is in its infancy and does what you describe (and can use any communication medium), but that kind of separate intranet system is difficult to search the way the Internet is. It would be like Discord where the inability to search it (unless you have already joined the relevant Discord) makes it hated as a replacement for forums.

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        7 hours ago

        That is interesting, I’ll make a note of it.

        but that kind of separate intranet system is difficult to search the way the Internet is.

        Yes, but node operators would probably be best encouraged to run simple indexer searches, especially in a system where agreements could be made about how hard-hitting said searches should be (and a mutual respect for robots.txt and the like). I’ll be honest and say that the Internet has been barely searchable for at least half a decade, if not a whole decade if I were critical.

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      12 hours ago

      For websites, all we need is another DNS system. I say we get rid of TLDs entirely. They’re useless nowadays.

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        11 hours ago

        Heey have you heard of the tenfingers sharing protocol? It makes away with both DNS, registrars and hosting platforms.

        You need to open a port to the internet from your PC though, so people don’t seem to like that/be able to do that/have a provider letting them, so I’m working on a workaround for thar so it’ll be just fire and forget, no configuration.

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          11 hours ago

          I dunno about self hosting on your machine but I’m not opposed to an idea where if you have files to share on a server, you have to provide storage for parts of other files up to a certain percent of the space you use. Or, something like… you have 20gb, you’re only using 5gb, so 15gb are free for the network. If you start using more locally, it opens up space for you to use by clearing shared files. If that makes sense?