With exceptions in cases like when a couple loses a child

Edit: in a scenario where everything is good. No wars, no famine.

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      Alternatively, it’s just as cruel to control men’s bodies and force vasectomies.

      It’s just a terrible question, dude. Not forbidden, but yeah, not a lovely thought to entertain.

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        Annnnd I said it wasn’t. Didn’t I? Didn’t support it.

        The point of this is, I’m not trying to control women just because I asked a question about the two child policy. Didn’t support it, just asked an opinion. How come you’re sooooo intent on twisting my words and finding Ill in everything I say?

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          I just find the question distasteful. I didn’t say you’re trying to control women, the question is fundamentally about controlling women.

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            Why?

            Didn’t we just argue about neutering men?

            If it’s about controlling anyone, it’s about controlling everyone. Which means it’s not about controlling women. Stop using that sentence like a buzzword. That’s pretty disgusting.

            And btw, a question can have multiple answers. You ask questions because you don’t know some answers. If there was an answer to this question other than those I know, I might learn it by asking here. It can trigger discussions from which I might learn more on the topic. It is possible that there is an answer which is actually good and I don’t know about it. THAT’S why you ask questions.

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              There are no good answers when it comes to population control in this way. It will always involve harming people.

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                How could I be sure? Even of there weren’t I might end up learning something interesting. (For example, someone else commented about ‘ghost people’ about China) What you’re saying sums down to ‘don’t ask questions related to controversial topics’. We always need to discuss them.

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                  You’re gonna have to live with the fact that people will form opinions about you based on your actions.

                  Pondering how to control humans reproductive rights is certainly something you’re allowed to do and the rest of us are allowed to ask why.

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                    Pondering how to control humans reproductive rights is certainly something you’re allowed to do and the rest of us are allowed to ask why

                    Oh? But I’m not going to do that tho. You can, if you want to.

                    My question was (how many times have I said this?) 'Do you think Strict two child policy should be a thing? ’ which is a different question from ‘how do I implement strict 2 child policy?’

                    Twisting People’s words is pretty lame yk? You better stop that, for your own sake.

                    You’re gonna have to live with the fact that people will form opinions about you based on your actions

                    Ok? That still doesn’t explain why you want to promote a very bad incorrect suspicion based on a normal question.

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          And I said in another comment that it is similarly cruel to force vasectomies and control men’s bodies.

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            I also replied that it was not the point. The point is you’re accusing the question of being about controlling women. Which it isn’t. Why do you keep forgetting things we already discussed and going back to it?

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              Any population control question is going to be in bad taste.

              I’m not the only person to have a bad reaction to this question and you know it.

              There are no good answers for population control that doesn’t include torturing humans.

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                So? It still doesn’t mean the question is about controlling women. And the point of asking questions is to learn something you might not know.

                To say that questions themselves are bad is promoting blind faith.

                There are no good answers for population control that doesn’t include torturing humans

                This is an answer, my guy. Instead of acting suspicious for no reason, you could just do this and have a healthy discussion.

                And my question wasn’t ‘Why do you think 2 child policy is good?’ It was ‘Do you think two child policy is good?’ Which could be answered with ‘NO’ which is a good answer (if there isn’t a moral way to implement it).

                I’m not the only person to have a bad reaction to this question and you know

                You’re not peer pressuring me lmfao. If that bothered me I’d have deleted the post already. XD