There are some brands of bicycles that can cost more than the down payment on a car. Why? Surely making a bike lightweight and reliable isn’t so difficult that it warrants that price? Is it just the brand name or maybe it has to do with customization options?

  • Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    12
    arrow-down
    9
    ·
    1 year ago

    10k mountain bike is like 95% the same bike as what a professional mountain biker would use in a competition. 10k motorbike is consumer grade junk that would probably break within minutes if you abuse it like you do a pro bike.

      • Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        edit-2
        1 year ago

        I somehow doubt that’s anywhere compareable to the bikes they use on motoGP or such. A quick google seems to put those anywhere from 1 to 4 million USD.

        • Hyperreality@kbin.social
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          1 year ago

          Warranty will often mention that it’s void if you race it. But I don’t think the comparison’s fair.

          Even in circumstances where it isn’t literally illegal to ride even a ‘budget’ motorbike anywhere near full potential, it’s still incredibly dangerous for an amateur. You literally can’t abuse it like a pro, without likely killing yourself.

          Pro-level bicycle? Often no problem. You’re less likely to get into trouble at 20mph/30kmh than 120mph/200kmh on a cheap motorbike. Forget about motogp bikes which IRC do 0-300kmh(190mph?) in under 10 seconds.

        • LucyLastic@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          1 year ago

          Superbike championships use road bikes with a change of fairings and upgrades to things like exhaust, brakes, and suspension.

          Hell, Isle Of Man TT lightweight class has used stuff like the ER6f as a base which is a budget commuter bike, lol

          A halo model super sport is basically a street legal race bike.

            • LucyLastic@sh.itjust.works
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              1 year ago

              Poor camparison, Superbike championship and the TT etc use the frame and engine (and quite a few other bits too). A stock bike in the right hands can get reasonably close to their lap times, and one with light mods (say, €1000 extra and a bit of elbow grease) can be halfway between the two.

        • astraeus@programming.dev
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          1 year ago

          That’s like comparing a road-model Subaru to a rally-model Subaru, they are obviously built for far different purposes

          • Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            1 year ago

            No… That’s my point. 10k mountain bike basically is that rally subaru. That’s why it’s not fair to compare a bike like that to consumer level motorbikes. That mountain bike is pro-level.

        • nukeworker10@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          1 year ago

          True, but there are grades of racing. I don’t know what the current class structure is, but a 7k CBR is spitting distance of super street or whatever that AMA class is called now. I think the point being made is still valid. I can’t go out and buy a motogp bike, and the manufacturer isn’t pretending to sell me one.

          • Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            1 year ago

            Yeah, I’m just trying to illustrate that many people don’t quite seem to appreciate the level on engineering that is put into these things. What your average weekend warrior is doing with their mountain bike is not that far away from what a pro enduro racer would do in a competition. That’s why you need pro level gear too and that comes with a cost. A walmart bike simply just can’t handle the abuse and there’s plenty of videos on YouTube demonstrating that.

    • nooneescapesthelaw@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      7
      ·
      1 year ago

      Ninja 400 for 6000 and that’s basically the honda civic of motorcycles. Very reliable even after being crashed multiple times

    • SuperSpruce@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      1 year ago

      10k gets you a brand new Yamaha MT-09: A sick-looking naked motorcycle with a 3 cylinder 118hp engine. It’s really frickin fast.

    • Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      1 year ago

      In around 2012 the costs of Tour the France bikes ranged somewhere around 4k to 8k (with a rumoured 12K€ bike). Source: French TV :-)

      Training bikes was about half (source my lil bro^^), but as the frame were mostly carbon and glue, they were actually quite used at the end of the season.