Two days before the January 6 insurrection, the Trump campaign’s plan to use fake electors to block President-elect Joe Biden from taking office faced a potentially crippling hiccup: The fake elector certificates from two critical battleground states were stuck in the mail.

So, Trump campaign operatives scrambled to fly copies of the phony certificates from Michigan and Wisconsin to the nation’s capital, relying on a haphazard chain of couriers, as well as help from two Republicans in Congress, to try to get the documents to then-Vice President Mike Pence while he presided over the Electoral College certification.

The operatives even considered chartering a jet to ensure the files reached Washington, DC, in time for the January 6, 2021, proceeding, according to emails and recordings obtained by CNN.

The new details provide a behind-the-scenes glimpse of the chaotic last-minute effort to keep Donald Trump in office. The fake electors scheme features prominently in special counsel Jack Smith’s criminal indictment against the former president, and some of the officials who were involved have spoken to Smith’s investigators.

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    It’s an easy thing to spread, because there’s a kernel of truth to it. Democrats are ruining the country. They’re just not doing it half as quickly as Republicans are.

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      You can see how administrations work, during republican the tax cuts for the rich get thr economy in shambles, then enters a democrat, and suddenly gets better, and repeat.

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        Things aren’t getting better by any metric. All of the most harmful legislation, the Patriot act, the Iraq war resolution, the restrict act, etc, is always bipartisan. Democrats are absolutely ruining the country alongside the Republicans. They’re just taking the scenic route.

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          idk why you are getting downvoted. Biden has done absolutely nothing to curb american fascism. more cops. He gave that weird anti-fascism speech last september and followed it up with exactly nothing structural. No election day holiday exec order, no universal mail in voting. No greedflation profit confiscation, price controls, cut pandemic medicaid, grew child poverty by 50%c blah blah. Our center-right neoliberal and far right fash parties are closer than they are apart, but we can’t have that conversation as a country.

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            I’m being downvoted because I’m going against the narrative people have learned from fairy tales and movies, that if there’s a bad guy there simply must be a good guy, and you have to be on one side or the other. God forbid people approach politics with an ounce of nuance instead of simplifying it to childlike levels and rooting for one side like it’s a sports team. Your average DNC simp on the internet is just a MAGA with a different colored hat.

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              You’re being downvoted because people disagree with you. Obviously you can spin that however you want to make yourself feel good, but that’s the long and short of it. Personally I think you are the one who lacks nuance in your analysis.

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          bOtH sIdEs argument… funny how the data shows that republicans get worse results than democrats, but yeah, bOtH sIdEs

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            So your take is since something is worse than the Democrats, that makes them good by default? You’re a child.

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              Lol that is basically your projection on republicans hahahaha how ironic.

              Also a fallacy, I’ve never said that, I just pointed to your idiotic abOtH sIdEs fallacy.

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                Lol that is basically your projection on republicans hahahaha how ironic.

                The fuck are you even talking about?

                abOtH sIdEs fallacy.

                It’s not a fallacy. They’re both horrible. They’re not the same, one is clearly worse, but they don’t have to be equally bad to both be bad.

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                  You are the idiot using the both sides fallacy. Not me.

                  Lol, and you keep with the same stupid argument.

                  Sure bud both sides are equally worse hahahahhahaa

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                    Sure bud both sides are equally worse

                    I never said that lmao. It’s like you don’t even read posts before you decide for yourself what they ought to say

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          Doom! Both sides are bad!

          So who should we vote for?

          Republicans or a third party that helps Republicans, no doubt.

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          That party isn’t even particularly consistent given how many different types of people are in it. What I can tell you is the genuinely monstrous people are drawn to the Republican party because they’re actively welcomed there.

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            That party isn’t even particularly consistent given how many different types of people are in it.

            That’s a pretty long winded way to say “no, I do not believe they’re good people who care about me”.

            Can you think of anything positive to say about them that doesn’t involve comparing them to Republicans? I can’t.

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                Yes. Satisfactory, desirable, moral. If you need to compare a concept to it’s antonym to define it, then you don’t really understand the concept.

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                    Bro, you dodged his question. He answered yours.

                    So how about instead of brushing him off with an insult, you actually pony up some good things you think democrats are doing that doesn’t just boil down to “well republicans would have done it worse”

                    Frankly, I’m on the side of voting democrats with the exact reasoning that Republicans will steer us into fascism. But I wouldn’t go so far as to say that they’re doing good, they just aren’t doing as much bad.

                    I can’t blame people who are disappointed with democrats as a whole, and I think it’s a reach to unironically take your position of voting for them because you think they have good policies.

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                    I can define irony too, it’s when a guy who believes that one of the political parties in this country are good guys who are on his side implies that you’re naive.