So when Trump tries to overthrow the largest government of the free world it takes 4 years for his trial to start, but when Biden backs his military allies it takes less than a month?
US diplomatic efforts have been consistently pressuring Israel to restrain their actions. What people don’t get, and what makes that statement seem insane to you, is that our ability to influence Israel is entirely dependent on our public support and, even so, is severely limited.
Let’s say we go hard against Israel, cut off their access to US weapons manufacturing, and cut off their aid. Suddenly one of the three great regional powers in the Middle East is up for grabs and Russia eagerly steps into the void. Now Russia has two of the three in their orbit, the other being Iran. Iran happens to be the best regional ally of the Palestinians, but Russia will put an immediate end to that. Now the situation for the Palestinians is even worse, unless you think the US is going to threaten military intervention against Israel.
Biden has said some braindead shit on the topic, like taking this moment to call himself a Zionist, but the actions his administration have actually taken have been the best available in a very bad situation. The current government of Israel is basically their version of MAGA. They are going to do what they are going to do, and there is nothing we can do to stop it, short of putting boots on the ground ourselves. (Even if we wanted to, we are historically shit at these kinds of actions.). The best we can do is advise restraint and try to keep the conflict from becoming regional. We did manage to keep Israel from doing a major strike on Lebanon that could easily have sparked a much broader conflict.
America let itself get to this point, putting your hands up complaining that you don’t have many options isn’t acceptable when you publicly defend and prop up a genocidal regime.
No fucking kidding, but I wasn’t complaining. You clearly think virtue signaling about how much you care about the Palestinians is more important than being the adult in the room and actually doing what’s in their best interests and the interests of a region that could very easily fall into a much bigger conflict.
Biden is POTUS, not a social media talking head. If he were to verbally condemn Israel, it would make the situation worse, not better. As Israel’s friend, we have a seat at the table and a chance to influence things. As Israel’s critic, we are left with terrible to no options. I’m glad we don’t have a president who craves social media likes over all else.
Your influence isn’t doing shit, typical American shite pompous bullshit leader of the free world but shies away from the difficult conversation because even if you recognize it is the right thing you don’t want to the consequences.
America put all these pieces on the board and is now acting like they can’t do anything but give stern commentary.
I don’t crave social media likes, I’d love to see less dead children even if it means POTUS has to answer some tough questions. Where does the buck stop again?
The fact that Israel and Lebanon aren’t at war right now says you are wrong.
American shite pompous bullshit leader of the free world but shies away from the difficult conversation
It’s been widely reported that Biden and netanyahu have had the difficult conversations, but maybe you are talking to me. I’m certainly trying, but you sure do make it difficult.
America put all these pieces on the board
LOL. These pieces were on the board long before America even existed as a country. Even so, this isn’t a “America bad” conversation, we are discussing the Biden administration’s handling of the current crisis. I give America a large part of the blame too BTW, I just don’t need to signal it in every conversation.
I’d love to see less dead children even if it means POTUS has to answer some tough questions.
What questions? All I see from you are rants. I’m all for tough questions, and I’m hardly a fan of Biden.
Where does the buck stop again?
Which buck? If we are talking about the genocide, then I’d send the bill to the government perpetrating it and Hamas. Hamas’s attack on Israel was intended to provoke exactly the response it’s getting from the far right wing government that Israel elected. Even now, Hamas is continuing to provoke Israel to ensure that it keeps happening. Israel isn’t going to back off, and Hamas will continue using their response to drive recruitment. Is the US supposed to talk them out of it, or are we supposed to put boots on the ground to stop it? Either one would have about the same level of success.
I really doubt that, as I’m not american. Trump was hitting it out of the park for americans, literally stomping my head of state in negotiations. admittedly trudeau isn’t all that bright. anyways, protectionist policies aren’t a good idea. Setting up a situation protectionism isn’t needed is better. Trump forced trudeau into allowing importation of american milk to canada, it used to be a given not.
He did nothing of the sort. Trump forcing Trudeau to let American milk into Canada isn’t much of a win for Americans. You sound uneducated on current events.
What isn’t mentioned is that there’s a kind of tit for tat norm in politics. If you damage the soft negotiation power that comes from co-operation retaliation is normal. Forcing a group to do something completely against their interests because you took advantage of the size of your resources (hard power) isn’t actually difficult… It’s just that you destroy goodwill and open the door to future “screw you” style retaliation.
“Stomping our head of State” isn’t exactly difficult when there as many Canadians in the world as there are Californians. He basically tanked steel trade because it would cause outsized harm to a smaller country the costs of which which ended up being borne by the US industries to force milk onto a market where it generally isn’t wanted. American milk contains artificial growth hormone which domestic milk doesn’t and threatening to tank our domestic food security because Canadian milk isn’t Government subsidized like American milk is means that we can’t compete on price is a dick move.
Since then that coercive deal has been taken apart by the courts and that Milk deal has all but been rescinded as of November last year. The Biden admin did their best to make it stick but Trumps abysmal understanding of the law extends to international trade law and the flaws were there from the beginning.
Trump damaged a lot of America’s good diplomatic standing for temporary victories and there was a lot of America’s long standing dirty laundry that other nations were already overlooking due to soft goodwill policy. The only advantage Trump had was that people were banking on him being a temporary nuisance. If he returns to power he does invite a lot of opportunities for international retaliation. Canada is a notorious soft diplomacy country. A future Trump lead US might not like what closed door handshakes may be in it’s future.
The US justice system goes soft on fascism. Always has, from operation paperclip to across the board leinency for j6 convictions. Hope this clears things up.
While I agree with the rest of your comment, and Comey waiting until after the election to let certain things be known is fucked, but this isn’t any federal organization in the US, this is basically a memo from a bunch of legal and civil groups worldwide saying ‘we think Biden is enabling genocide’ or at least didn’t prevent it. Aside from that…
Operation paperclip wasn’t a ‘lets go get some of the hardest hardcore Nazis we can because Nazis, fuck yeah!’, it was because they were some of the best minds in engineering, science, and technology. This was right after the US had shown the world the bomb. So they had focused their energy on making a megaweapon, and next was likely seeing what else they could achieve with the knowledge gained from it, with new minds. Propulsion, time travel, advanced small weaponry, gravity manipulation, It’s not often you get to go steal over a thousand of the best minds from a very intelligent now-former superpower. I’m sure it was a free-for-all of ideas with them being mostly not workable, and many came to fruition and were used to advance other technologies, and some we’re keeping secret for when we really need them. I don’t speak on this with authority, only common sense.
There were over 1,600 people taken in OP paperclip. Many, but not all, were former members and some former leaders of the Nazi party.
By what measure? I would contest both the largest government and sadly the free world bits nowadays as well.
Trump took four years because the US prosecutor took four years. The court is the same, the prosecutor could have filed earlier, but “the case needed to be airtight”. This takes less than a month because these people just went in and did the thing.
If you know any history involving US activity across the planet, you’d know that being a genocide embracing war criminal comes with being a US president, it’s part of the job.
So when Trump tries to overthrow the largest government of the free world it takes 4 years for his trial to start, but when Biden backs his military allies it takes less than a month?
Let’s not compare apples to oranges.
Biden isn’t less deserving of scrutiny because he is the better president. He is backing a genocide, that should be put to him.
Will anything happen? No, because America doesn’t have justice left in stock.
US diplomatic efforts have been consistently pressuring Israel to restrain their actions. What people don’t get, and what makes that statement seem insane to you, is that our ability to influence Israel is entirely dependent on our public support and, even so, is severely limited.
Let’s say we go hard against Israel, cut off their access to US weapons manufacturing, and cut off their aid. Suddenly one of the three great regional powers in the Middle East is up for grabs and Russia eagerly steps into the void. Now Russia has two of the three in their orbit, the other being Iran. Iran happens to be the best regional ally of the Palestinians, but Russia will put an immediate end to that. Now the situation for the Palestinians is even worse, unless you think the US is going to threaten military intervention against Israel.
Biden has said some braindead shit on the topic, like taking this moment to call himself a Zionist, but the actions his administration have actually taken have been the best available in a very bad situation. The current government of Israel is basically their version of MAGA. They are going to do what they are going to do, and there is nothing we can do to stop it, short of putting boots on the ground ourselves. (Even if we wanted to, we are historically shit at these kinds of actions.). The best we can do is advise restraint and try to keep the conflict from becoming regional. We did manage to keep Israel from doing a major strike on Lebanon that could easily have sparked a much broader conflict.
America let itself get to this point, putting your hands up complaining that you don’t have many options isn’t acceptable when you publicly defend and prop up a genocidal regime.
No fucking kidding, but I wasn’t complaining. You clearly think virtue signaling about how much you care about the Palestinians is more important than being the adult in the room and actually doing what’s in their best interests and the interests of a region that could very easily fall into a much bigger conflict.
Biden is POTUS, not a social media talking head. If he were to verbally condemn Israel, it would make the situation worse, not better. As Israel’s friend, we have a seat at the table and a chance to influence things. As Israel’s critic, we are left with terrible to no options. I’m glad we don’t have a president who craves social media likes over all else.
Your influence isn’t doing shit, typical American shite pompous bullshit leader of the free world but shies away from the difficult conversation because even if you recognize it is the right thing you don’t want to the consequences.
America put all these pieces on the board and is now acting like they can’t do anything but give stern commentary.
I don’t crave social media likes, I’d love to see less dead children even if it means POTUS has to answer some tough questions. Where does the buck stop again?
The fact that Israel and Lebanon aren’t at war right now says you are wrong.
It’s been widely reported that Biden and netanyahu have had the difficult conversations, but maybe you are talking to me. I’m certainly trying, but you sure do make it difficult.
LOL. These pieces were on the board long before America even existed as a country. Even so, this isn’t a “America bad” conversation, we are discussing the Biden administration’s handling of the current crisis. I give America a large part of the blame too BTW, I just don’t need to signal it in every conversation.
What questions? All I see from you are rants. I’m all for tough questions, and I’m hardly a fan of Biden.
Which buck? If we are talking about the genocide, then I’d send the bill to the government perpetrating it and Hamas. Hamas’s attack on Israel was intended to provoke exactly the response it’s getting from the far right wing government that Israel elected. Even now, Hamas is continuing to provoke Israel to ensure that it keeps happening. Israel isn’t going to back off, and Hamas will continue using their response to drive recruitment. Is the US supposed to talk them out of it, or are we supposed to put boots on the ground to stop it? Either one would have about the same level of success.
deleted by creator
He’s actually passed a lot of protectionist policies which are fairly new in terms of how expansive they are.
He has 100% done more for Americans than Trump and with more grace and poise.
I really doubt that, as I’m not american. Trump was hitting it out of the park for americans, literally stomping my head of state in negotiations. admittedly trudeau isn’t all that bright. anyways, protectionist policies aren’t a good idea. Setting up a situation protectionism isn’t needed is better. Trump forced trudeau into allowing importation of american milk to canada, it used to be a given not.
Ah here you clearly have a viewpoint set and that’s not going to change.
The policies Trump was putting in place were also protectionist, just poorly so. He also floundered on COVID killing his countrymen.
I’m not going to continue s conversation with anyone that thinks Trump was the more intelligent of any two people in a room. Much less a world leader.
you have no idea how fucking stupid trudeau is
You have no idea how much of an Albertan you sound like.
No, I don’t, because you hear that in every province now.
He did nothing of the sort. Trump forcing Trudeau to let American milk into Canada isn’t much of a win for Americans. You sound uneducated on current events.
What isn’t mentioned is that there’s a kind of tit for tat norm in politics. If you damage the soft negotiation power that comes from co-operation retaliation is normal. Forcing a group to do something completely against their interests because you took advantage of the size of your resources (hard power) isn’t actually difficult… It’s just that you destroy goodwill and open the door to future “screw you” style retaliation.
“Stomping our head of State” isn’t exactly difficult when there as many Canadians in the world as there are Californians. He basically tanked steel trade because it would cause outsized harm to a smaller country the costs of which which ended up being borne by the US industries to force milk onto a market where it generally isn’t wanted. American milk contains artificial growth hormone which domestic milk doesn’t and threatening to tank our domestic food security because Canadian milk isn’t Government subsidized like American milk is means that we can’t compete on price is a dick move.
Since then that coercive deal has been taken apart by the courts and that Milk deal has all but been rescinded as of November last year. The Biden admin did their best to make it stick but Trumps abysmal understanding of the law extends to international trade law and the flaws were there from the beginning.
Trump damaged a lot of America’s good diplomatic standing for temporary victories and there was a lot of America’s long standing dirty laundry that other nations were already overlooking due to soft goodwill policy. The only advantage Trump had was that people were banking on him being a temporary nuisance. If he returns to power he does invite a lot of opportunities for international retaliation. Canada is a notorious soft diplomacy country. A future Trump lead US might not like what closed door handshakes may be in it’s future.
The US justice system goes soft on fascism. Always has, from operation paperclip to across the board leinency for j6 convictions. Hope this clears things up.
While I agree with the rest of your comment, and Comey waiting until after the election to let certain things be known is fucked, but this isn’t any federal organization in the US, this is basically a memo from a bunch of legal and civil groups worldwide saying ‘we think Biden is enabling genocide’ or at least didn’t prevent it. Aside from that…
Operation paperclip wasn’t a ‘lets go get some of the hardest hardcore Nazis we can because Nazis, fuck yeah!’, it was because they were some of the best minds in engineering, science, and technology. This was right after the US had shown the world the bomb. So they had focused their energy on making a megaweapon, and next was likely seeing what else they could achieve with the knowledge gained from it, with new minds. Propulsion, time travel, advanced small weaponry, gravity manipulation, It’s not often you get to go steal over a thousand of the best minds from a very intelligent now-former superpower. I’m sure it was a free-for-all of ideas with them being mostly not workable, and many came to fruition and were used to advance other technologies, and some we’re keeping secret for when we really need them. I don’t speak on this with authority, only common sense.
There were over 1,600 people taken in OP paperclip. Many, but not all, were former members and some former leaders of the Nazi party.
By what measure? I would contest both the largest government and sadly the free world bits nowadays as well.
Trump took four years because the US prosecutor took four years. The court is the same, the prosecutor could have filed earlier, but “the case needed to be airtight”. This takes less than a month because these people just went in and did the thing.
If you know any history involving US activity across the planet, you’d know that being a genocide embracing war criminal comes with being a US president, it’s part of the job.
yep. Former presidents don’t travel internationally much, they stick to Canada, Mexico, England.
People sued Trump really quick too. This is civil not criminal.
I’d wager the ongoing thousands of violent deaths might have something to do with the difference in urgency here.
oh look. the muppet doesn’t understand the difference between filing and trial, and is unclear on media prevarication.
Uh uh um your mom
Trump was getting sued constantly before and during his presidency. You do understand the difference between civil and criminal trials right?
The amount of tribalism in this thread is disgusting.
lol textbook protection
Biden can’t be bad because that would mean Trump good. And Trump is bad so Biden Good!