• BunkerBusterKeaton@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    It already has been a war between Russia and Nato. Where do you think Ukraine is getting all of their military equipment?

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      1 year ago

      I think it’s obvious there’s a difference between lend-lease support of a nation defending itself and full on world war.

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        1 year ago

        Actually there’s no military difference except Russia will implode because of the news alone.

        Now, until it implodes there’s simply no realistic chance any nukes will fly from Russia. After it implodes, the chance is minimal, though there may be some nuclear blackmail like what North Korea does, always ending with a humanitarian shipment of grain or something.

        The whole point of all this maneuvering is to preserve Russia’s integrity. This is why weaponry given to Ukraine is limited in class and modernity.

        This is rather cruel to Ukrainians (and Russians, because also means that NATO countries are not interested in real regime change, they are interested in controlling the current regime), but is really obvious.

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          1 year ago

          I don’t disagree with most of what you said. But NATO getting fully and directly involved - As in moving in with 10s of thousands of troops to take part of Ukraine that Russia has claimed (Eg Crimea) would be a massive escalation, and I don’t think there’s a credible military or geopolitics expert who would disagree.

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        1 year ago

        The difference is we can use Ukraine as a proxy and don’t have to send our own children to die. This war could last for 100 years and the only cost is NATO treasure, plus Ukrainian and Russian blood.