A video taken by a high school student shows Indiana state Rep. Jim Lucas flash a holstered gun to students who were visiting the statehouse to talk to lawmakers about gun control
Let’s use knives instead. If you’re bothering me on the street, and I flash a large knife at you in response, what would be your interpretation of that gesture? Am I just getting my knife some air? Am I inviting you back to mine for a night cap? Or am I telling you to back off because I have a weapon?
That’s not a particularly relevant example. If you and I were having a discussion about one’s right to self-defense, and I ask you “like by carrying a knife”, and you say “yes, in fact I’m carrying a knife right now” and you show me, I’m not going to feel threatened. (Which is actually exactly what happened in this instance.)
I assume to emphasize the point about having a weapon to defend oneself. You don’t have to agree with that point, but you don’t get to automatically jump to it being some kind of threat.
Don’t drag us knife owners into it. Mine is a tool for cutting things, a gun has no useful purpose (outside a range). A tool can be misused but a gun’s primary purpose is to make living things dead.
You’ve lived a sheltered and privileged life if you think there is no useful purpose in a tool which has the primary purpose of making living things dead.
Maybe so but I doubt I am alone. How often do you find yourself needing a penis-enhancer to survive? What do you got a story about something that may or may not have happened from ten years ago?
We write laws for the society we are in not for the society that could exist. So yeah you are free to view me as domesticated or whatever foul word for weakness you have ready to go, but to me you are same except one of us is aware of what life is actually like.
Have you thought about video games or joining the Guard? Good way to get solider boy out of your system.
So yeah you are free to view me as domesticated or whatever foul word for weakness you have ready to go, but to me you are same except one of us is aware of what life is actually like.
Oh yes, I have a very descriptive epithet for you: Future victim
I don’t have the privilege of living somewhere with a sub-minute police response, and even if I did, the police have no obligation to protect me. When seconds count, a bullet is faster than dialing 911.
Which one of us allows themselves to be in a position where we need a gun? Rather than planning to rise to an occasion, simply stop the occasion from occuring. I get vaccinated so I don’t have to depend on my immune system pulling off a win.
don’t have the privilege of living somewhere
Think I found your problem. I grew up in a village of 400 people btw. At one point my school was slightly over 10% me+siblings+cousins. If I can manage to overcome that I am betting you can as well. My wife had it a lot harder, I have been multiple times to her developing world farming village.
When seconds count, a bullet is faster than dialing 911.
Who made the guns so widely available that seconds do count?
I mean, I kinda get where you’re coming from. Though I’ll say I could take that to an extreme to show how flawed it is.
I will say however, when someone is actively saying “we want knife control, things are unsafe if everyone is just walking around with knives” and someone else goes “what are you talking about I have this knife right here” it does have a bit more sinister a vibe in my mind.
Let’s use knives instead. If you’re bothering me on the street, and I flash a large knife at you in response, what would be your interpretation of that gesture? Am I just getting my knife some air? Am I inviting you back to mine for a night cap? Or am I telling you to back off because I have a weapon?
That’s not a particularly relevant example. If you and I were having a discussion about one’s right to self-defense, and I ask you “like by carrying a knife”, and you say “yes, in fact I’m carrying a knife right now” and you show me, I’m not going to feel threatened. (Which is actually exactly what happened in this instance.)
What does showing the knife accomplish in this example?
I assume to emphasize the point about having a weapon to defend oneself. You don’t have to agree with that point, but you don’t get to automatically jump to it being some kind of threat.
Don’t drag us knife owners into it. Mine is a tool for cutting things, a gun has no useful purpose (outside a range). A tool can be misused but a gun’s primary purpose is to make living things dead.
You’ve lived a sheltered and privileged life if you think there is no useful purpose in a tool which has the primary purpose of making living things dead.
Maybe so but I doubt I am alone. How often do you find yourself needing a penis-enhancer to survive? What do you got a story about something that may or may not have happened from ten years ago?
We write laws for the society we are in not for the society that could exist. So yeah you are free to view me as domesticated or whatever foul word for weakness you have ready to go, but to me you are same except one of us is aware of what life is actually like.
Have you thought about video games or joining the Guard? Good way to get solider boy out of your system.
Oh yes, I have a very descriptive epithet for you: Future victim
I don’t have the privilege of living somewhere with a sub-minute police response, and even if I did, the police have no obligation to protect me. When seconds count, a bullet is faster than dialing 911.
Which one of us allows themselves to be in a position where we need a gun? Rather than planning to rise to an occasion, simply stop the occasion from occuring. I get vaccinated so I don’t have to depend on my immune system pulling off a win.
Think I found your problem. I grew up in a village of 400 people btw. At one point my school was slightly over 10% me+siblings+cousins. If I can manage to overcome that I am betting you can as well. My wife had it a lot harder, I have been multiple times to her developing world farming village.
Who made the guns so widely available that seconds do count?
I mean, I kinda get where you’re coming from. Though I’ll say I could take that to an extreme to show how flawed it is.
I will say however, when someone is actively saying “we want knife control, things are unsafe if everyone is just walking around with knives” and someone else goes “what are you talking about I have this knife right here” it does have a bit more sinister a vibe in my mind.