The GOP candidate had said last week that states could secede if they felt the need to do so.
Nikki Haley, fresh off her Civil War history refresher on this week’s Saturday Night Live, appeared to remember what the Constitution allowed when it comes to state secession: nothing.
Haley again walked back her comments saying states could choose if they wanted to secede from the U.S., telling CNN’s State of the Union on Sunday that she didn’t believe the Constitution afforded them that right. It came days after she told radio host Charlamagne tha God that states like Texas could “make the decisions that their people want to make.”
“According to the Constitution, they can’t,” Haley told CNN. “What I think they have the right to do is have the power to protect themselves and do all that. Texas has talked about that for a long time. The Constitution doesn’t allow for that.”
The GOP presidential candidate then tried to pivot to why Texas would consider such an option, citing Gov. Greg Abbott’s frustration with the Biden administration’s handling of the Southern border and the state’s desire to protect itself.
I really don’t want to see the harm that will cause millions of people. Not everyone in Texas is the same.
As a trapped Texan, thank you for remembering the good people. It’s hard even for myself to shake the “fuck em, let them find out” attitude. Honestly the morbid part of me really wants to see the day-one collapse, much as it would hurt.
But then again we all know for a fact that the Cons will find/fabricate a new bogeyman to blame for their very own actions.
Hypothetical, obviously, but how would you feel if we let Texas secede but offered relocation assistance for folks that want to flee the state?
I think that would be the least the U.S. could do for its (former?) citizens. Or at the least allow for dual citizenship. But secession is definitely not going to happen so I’m not worried :)
Hypothetically though, yeah it would be a huge relief and I’d emigrate without a second thought.
Yeah, it seems very unlikely at this point. I was just interested in your perspective.
Hang in there, hope it ends up getting a bit more sane over the next few years.
Thing is, actual secession would absolutely destroy Greg Abbott’s power machine, which depends on Texas having outsized legislative control over the other 49 states, not to mention all the sweet federal cash that would instantly dry up right when their international border would expand from one side to all sides.
No. They want to stir shit up, destabilize voters, hinder political discourse, and ultimately grab authoritarian power, but they do NOT want to secede. That’s the LAST thing they want. But they say this shit to get everyone riled up and feeling threatened by it, because people that are riled up with fear and anger are easier to control with bad-faith commentary and propaganda.
So while it is possible that the dog will finally catch the car – like they did with abortion – not only is there zero legal route to Texas secession, even those who claim to want it really do NOT and would absolutely shit their kecks if everyone else in the union went, “Okay then. Bye, Felicia.”
I hope this helps. There’s enough to worry about without that as well. See it as the two-faced Russian-paid political bad actor bullshit it is.
I’m not actually worried that it would happen, and I agree with all your points; fear-mongering is their bread and butter. But thanks for taking the effort to reassure a stranger!
In a nearby parallel universe I’m simultaneously packing my bags and choking on my laughter from my front-row seat 🤣
I didn’t mean just Texas either.
And they are causing harm to entire states that didn’t vote Republican or vote for anyone who appointed these Supreme Court justices. Their reps are blocking bills in the legislature. Fuck them.
Texas has more people who voted against Republicans than all but 3 states: California, Florida, New York. So all those people you are telling to go starve?
Cut Texas out and inflation again goes up. Beef, Grain, Corn… More people will blame the president for it, and then we will get more Republican voters. Issue continues but the people in Texas no longer have social security, Medicare, Medicaid and the U.S. Navy/Army stepped in to secure the oil fields. Exports/imports likely stopped as punishment and the oil companies will sell to 49 states instead of 1. So the people struggle to get gas. Struggle to get to work… and without food imported from the rest of the states, they will have food shortages outside of beef flour and corn. Electricity will fail once the people can’t get to work, so the Internet is no longer useful… The United Nations will condemn the actions of the U.S. and strain will be put further on our ties, likely further impacting our imports/exports and causing higher inflation. Texas will need help and where would they get it? They won’t accept help from China, but guess who has oil and would want to help them? Russia. The U.S. would be Texas’s enemy at that point… So Russia doesn’t look half bad to keep the lights on and be able to get to work and pay the bills. Then the U.S. would have to pressure Russia into not helping them… Aka U.S. eventually having to go to war against Texas and forcing them into statehood to ensure no other country has access to the land within the U.S. where missiles can reach everywhere without needing to cross a massive ocean.
Not just starve, remember that when secession started in Texas they started murdering people who were against secession. They’ll absolutely do it again.
I could see Mexico declaring war on Texas.