• porcariasagrada@slrpnk.net
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    10 months ago

    it matters. one is an accelerationist the other is a conservative of the status quo. neither are going to improve anything but one will try his most to destroy any confidence.

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      10 months ago

      one will try his most to destroy any confidence

      Talking about Biden? You know, the one currently supporting a genocide? I’d think that counts as trying “his most to destroy any confidence”

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        Biden never implied there was a chance the US would abandon its NATO allies in case of a war, Trump did.

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          Pro-Trump argument? Didn’t expect that here. Regardless, it’d be great if the US actually let NATO destroy itself and limit their ability to commit their imperialism in the middle-east (and across the world), but that’s just rhetoric to get Russia to ally with the US against China; like the US allied with China against the USSR in the Cold War.

          Unfortunately the US would never truly antagonize NATO; Trump would just be assassinated and replaced like JFK was for wanting to abolish the CIA, not that Trump would actually go through with it. He isn’t any better than Biden.

          The only way the US would improve is if a leftist org took power over this thinly-veiled imperialist oligarch altogether from outside its political system, which is designed to prevent leftward movement in the first place.

          Also uh, I don’t think US’s ongoing genocide victims care about that.

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              Since when did the CIA assassinate white conservative leaders?

              They would if they threatened the imperial core’s ability to commit their imperialism.

              The US Russia and China are all the same thing

              What an obnoxious statement lol. Only the US (and its allies) are built from centuries of capitalist colonialism, and are greatly benefiting from ongoing neocolonialism of those same “former” colonies through the IMF and World Bank. They are also the ones waging countless wars across the Middle East and Asia (Iraq, Vietnam, etc), coup’ing Africa’s and Latin America’s governments (Chile, Congo, etc), keeping them unstable and unable to unite and stand on their own so they have no choice but to rely on those exploitative institutions, and brutally sanctioning and embargo’ing those that do manage to escape their grasp (like Cuba)

              China, and even modern capitalist Russia, for all their flaws, are not even comparable to the sheer amount of suffering the US has inflicted, and continues to do so. There’s a reason songs like this are common across the developing world. No one outside the imperial core sees China or Russia as anywhere near equivalent to the US, for good reason.

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        10 months ago

        germany is doing the same. so i guess confidence isn’t being destroyed between those two. but is was talking about the american isolationist trump.