• SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world
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        9 months ago

        They accuse middle-right Biden of being a socialist constantly, for a huge part of America it’s the worst slur you can be called.

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              9 months ago

              I think maybe you might be the one who gets it in the morning. You’ve internalized the framing sold to you by establishment media and can’t seem to see past it. You have no understanding of how a socialist can do better than a centrist in red states, so you reject what polling tells us is true.

              Most of the ire directed at “socialists” comes from the association of Socialists and Democrats with elitism. Actual Socialists are not elitist and can speak to the actual needs of voters in a way that centrists do not.

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                9 months ago

                I keep hearing this, and I still don’t get it. So red state voters have only two modes: socialist or libertarian-capitalist?

                If what they “really” want is socialism, then why don’t they vote for center-left candidates when they have the chance? Nobody’s going to believe you want $100 if you keep sending death threats to the one person offering you $50.

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                  9 months ago

                  Maybe people are more complicated than something that can be measured across a single dimension?

                  Socialist concepts actually sell a whole lot better in red states than blue, even as the word itself doesn’t. Farmers co-ops are extremely common. VFW halls in rural areas are often busy social centers. Poorer areas like those around abandoned coal mines are totally dependent on federal aid. Such areas care a hell of a lot more about issues than labels.

                  Take a look on YouTube for some old videos of Bernie doing town halls in the deep south. That will tell you a lot more than I could.

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                    9 months ago

                    Shrug. I think they need to figure out how to better align their voting habits with their policy goals, instead of expecting everyone else to carefully shape their language around whatever neuroses they have that causes them to vote GOP.

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                    9 months ago

                    Bernie couldn’t even win the primary, how was he supposed to win presidency?

                    There was a reason Trump was pushing to run against Bernie in 2020.