There seems to be a sub-group of salty dogs that sail without protection. They are often US saying they get lots of letters from ISP but nothing comes of it, lately. I’m one to hedge on the side of caution and will be continuing to use VPN but just wondering how much this is just a loud minority and how much truth is to it?

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      A VPN literally does not change anything that comes through to you from the internet. I mean, thats the whole point, isn’t it? So, actually using a VPN you are “rawdogging” the internet, not the other way round.

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    I mean, a VPN protects you from a lot more than just copyright trolls. Even if you’re not sailing the high seas, it’s better to have one than not.

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      Can you elaborate what you mean? If someone lives in an oppressive country e.g. China, with many blocked sites or censured internet, I understand. But if you don’t live in such a country what would be a usecase apart from piracy?

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        Well, one of the biggest reasons to have a VPN is just the privacy. Your ISP spies on you, and sells your browsing data to corporations like Amazon. A good VPN will also block ads, trackers, and malware, which helps keep you safe while browsing. You might also be on an ISP that throttles some types of traffic, such as streaming media.

        A VPN, as long as it’s set up right, prevents anyone from seeing what you’re doing, even if they have access to your traffic. And if you’re in the US, there’s a strong argument that being free from casual intrusion into your internet habits by corporations and the government is a Constitutional right.

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          That’s my main reason. I don’t trust my ISP at all. Plus, they most likely are the only one in your area. I’d rather not give them any ammunition to mess with me.

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        Yeah… A VPN is just closing the curtains before shagging on the living room couch.

        It’s still happening, and you may end up with an infection, but others outside your private network residence can’t see what you’re doing.

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    I only use a vpn on public trackers, on private trackers I don’t use a vpn.

    But generally if you don’t live in a third world country you should almost always use a vpn. I live in Germany and luckily my ISP doesn’t care about torrenting.

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      OP here living on the edge.
      I usually only download through my seedbox located in NL.
      Luckily a VPN connection is included with my seedbox and recently had a reason to use it for torrenting from a private page.

      What ISP are you using?

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        My current ISP is VSE, Innogy highspeed, E.on Highspeed or whatever name they’ll be using next. They change their name every few months or so

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            They offer a dedicated IP for around 1 Euro per month. Recently I noticed they also enabled IPv6 natively

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              Still stuck with someone not willing to go >50mbit/s at home. I will try to keep them in mind once it comes to it ;)
              Thank you!

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    I torrented the vast majority of my growing 28tb library without a vpn over the last 7ish years.

    This year alone, I’ve received 45 email notices from my ISP forwarding copyright claims to me. Neither the ISP nor any claimants have taken further action and the content in the claim(s) has always finished seeding and been removed from the torrent client by the time I’ve received the notice. (the notice specifies a particular torrent title/filename)

    Despite not yet having legal issues or service interruptions; I have just recently decided to switch from torrenting to usenet via Frugal Usenet+NZBGeek (usenet provider+indexer). Better availability (In 2 days, I grabbed 2.8tb of content I hadn’t been able to find via torrents and 15+ indexers), continuous 70+mbps downloads, and no need for a vpn while also not receiving anymore copyright claims for only about $6/month.

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    Those letters are often void threats. ISPs are not really the right plaintiff to bring priacy cases to court. The only thing they can do is to terminate service but that is obviously not in their interest.

    Just if you are already paying for a VPN and the download/upload speed is acceptable, there is no point in getting yourself in trouble no matter how small the odd is.

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    I’d always use a VPN, you never know what could happen in the future. Better be safe than sorry!

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    I once received a secure message from my isp after downloading a certain film. I’ve been pretty paranoid ever since.

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    The problem with this question is that it’s a whole lot more nuanced than “Do I need it?”. In short the only time you could possible benefit from one is if you use torrents, and even then it’s really only public torrents. From there it depends on whether the swarm is monitored, and given how you simply can’t know that it’s safer to just assume that it is. But even if it is, will your ISP bother to forward the DMCA notices to you, and if they will, will they care if you take no action?

    If you check enough boxes it’s likely worth it “just in case”, although at that point you might as well look into debrid services.

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    I’ve been torrenting for almost 20 years and no one cares here where I live. I got VPN few months ago anyway, paying 5€/mo and I sleep better. The problem is I had to change provider already (Mullvad -> AirVPN). Its not easy to find proper VPN with port forwarding and Im afraid there will be even less providers in the future. Maybe I’m wrong, but feels like I’ll have to ditch PF in near future.