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GiddyGap@lemm.ee to politics @lemmy.world · 1 year ago

Trump is winning big with his base, but there’s no sign that he's broadening support

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Trump is winning big with his base, but there’s no sign that he's broadening support

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GiddyGap@lemm.ee to politics @lemmy.world · 1 year ago
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Donald Trump appears close to invincible in the early Republican primaries and caucuses, but his strength among general election voters remains unclear.
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    Just a note that polling of Millenials and younger is known to be wildly inaccurate since we don’t follow traditional news media, so extrapolating a sample to a state or national value is functionally guesswork.

    This is why polling stated Obama wasn’t going to be re-elected and everyone was expecting a big Romney win.

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      Not sure where you’re getting that. FiveThirtyEight’s presidential model doesn’t solely rely on polling, but it’s the prominent factor, and it was bang on that year.

      https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/nov/07/nate-silver-election-forecasts-right

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        That was an in person speech I attended by the unofficial god of polling, Angus Reid.

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          Don’t know what you heard in a speech, but Angus Reid’s own organization accurately predicted the popular vote that year:

          https://angusreid.org/electoral-record-continued/

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            And his group was the outlier.

            Anyways I was sharing firsthand knowledge here that isnt acknowledged on the web. That speech has no public recording.

            No polling agency talks about why the uncertainty used to be +/-3% and its now often +/- 6 to 10%.

            You’re just looking for irrelevant gotchas.

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              It’s not exactly a “gotcha” when we just have to take your word for it that this happened.

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              A: Makes a claim

              B: Requests source.

              A: You’re just looking for irrelevant gotchas. Anyway, she lives in Canada.

               

              I mean, you might be totally correct and relating a factual experience with total objectivity. But you gotta admit that’s what it sounds like.

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      Got a source for that “everyone was expecting a Romney win” thing?

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        Yeah, an in person speech by Angus Reid.

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          Sources are usually verifiable.

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            Yeah, sorry. This wasn’t a public speech, but I was there in person. There might be a recording of it, but again, not public.

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              Cool. So one guy at a speech delivered in private that you can’t verify in any way said that everyone expected Romney to win.

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                No, he said why the polling was off and why most polls were projecting a Romney win.

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      Romney lost once the binders full of women comment happened. Similar to Hillary’s deplorables comment.

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