- cross-posted to:
- fediverse@lemmy.world
- cross-posted to:
- fediverse@lemmy.world
This has happened once before and they reversed it. But they said this last time too:
The discussions that have happened in various threads on Lemmy make it very clear that removing the communites before we announced our intent to remove them is not the level of transparency the community expects, and that as stewards of this community we need to be extremely transparent before we do this again in the future as well as make sure that we get feedback around what the planned changes are, because lemmy.world is yours as much as it is ours.
Ideologically narrow? Have you been to lemmy.ml‽
I’m not going to say liberals don’t go there to shitpost like ML do here. But the admins on world haven’t been summarily banning people for “tanky shit” like the ML admins have been banning for “liberal shit”. The hypocrisy of your critique is why they rightfully call out those from there. You. Making them.
To be clear, I agree that world trends centrist to right. But as an anarcho communist anti Leninist I feel much more welcome here than ML. Though there definitely is nothing more on brand than ml hypocritically criticizing liberals and liberals hypocritically criticizing ml.
Yes I have been here for over 2 years, and before we get into it, we must understand where our biases are. When looking at a group the closer they are to you, the more difrent shades you can see. This is why I declared where I was, and why I would consider Lemmygrad more Ideoligistacly open than .World, because when I interact with people from that instance I can see more minor variations.
That being said Lemmy.world when I interact with them, I can play bingo with their answers, and I would say in ideological narrowness it would be either .world or beehaw. Not only this but the Anarchist hub tends to be Hexbear, that being a Left Unity instance, and Anti Leninists, I would like to hear more about this, because I have not heard a Luxemburgist in forever, and while I would love to say I have heard an Orthodox Marxist, most people who self identify like that are merly social democrats. .ML is a generalist instance, and I feel like the hate whip up is far overblown and agian part of my evidence for the ideological narrowness. Is moderation here perfect no, but ML does not ban for being “a liberal” they have a difrent reason behind it. If you want to be banned for being a liberal go to Lemmygrad or Hexbear.
Also I hate to blame it to you, but .world does do the summary banning for “Tanky shit” that is why they decided to without prompting to defederate with lemmygrad, because they could not handle communists existing. This is the reason they preimptivly defederated hexbear before they even joined, and this is the reason they are debating defederating .ML.
We all have biases and it is important to agnoledge them, and what they mean, I am free and open with mine. You have not been for yours.
It was a rhetorical question. It didn’t require an answer. I can see what instance you’re from. And even what instance this is posted to. And I know that even by saying the T word. Even though I refrain from using it personally. Only using it as others would slur you. Because you use liberal as such. All in furtherance of trying to point out the bad faith and hypocrisy on display.
I’m 50, from the US. Raised in a traditionally liberal family. Goth since the 80s, and absolutely a black sheep. I’ll criticize liberals all day every day when they deserve it. No love for them here. I got nothing to hide. And frankly who you’re close to. That’s a red herring. You will almost never find someone who attacks ml power structures on countries more often and more viciously than people formerly from them.
Respectfully, I get that you have a lot of people disingenuously attacking your ideology as much as you do theirs. But people can and do have valid criticisms and problems with it. Despite being generally down for Marxism. I don’t see any reason for anyone outside of my machine shop to own the means of production there. Only people from the shop should. Not some Baker who will never set foot in it. Not some politician in some politburo thousands of miles away.
Frankly we have huge issues here with not having enough parties actually able to represent people. I don’t see how having less parties is going to fix that. Nor do I see the benefit of having a party in charge that would seek to jail me for life, possibly kill me, or brainwash me for dissenting with the state. There is no re-education. Only education and brainwashing. I will gladly take people ignoring me or looking at me incredulously over that sort of s*** any day.
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Someone should tell Hong Kong. I’m sure that will make them feel much better. Considering everything that’s been happening to them lately.
And I’ll give you this much. Liberals disingenuously use ml as their main foil against any sort of leftism/socialism. To the point it seems to many uneducated people like ml might actually be the left as you claim. It’s bs, there are lots of other types of leftists. But this is part of the problem with many ml. Denying and alienating all other leftists. And everyone else with the no true leftist schtick. That and the oppressive totalitarianism.
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Such tolerance! Much acceptance! Granted it is a complex and nuanced situation. But squash, is that something tolerant groups do?
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