• OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Disgusting. Before you jump to “obviously, who expected being a hostage to be nice, this is sad but normal in war blah blah blah” just remember all of the despicable bullshit that Zionists say to justify the massive civilian casualties and continuous war crimes of Israel. If you sound like them you are not on the side of humanity.

    Fuck Hamas and fuck every single one of them that did something like this.

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      8 months ago

      Yes, thank you for reminding everyone we condemn Hamas, it’s really hard to know if the West supports terrorists or not and unfortunately I have to state that’s sarcasm. Nobody is siding with the terrorist insurgency but fuck Israel for making conditions so inhumane, so unlivable, so untenable that the only solution they can reasonably find is to fight a state fully funded by the United States. Nobody chooses to fight the US without believing they’re going to die anyway.

      Israel created their own villains and I have zero fucking sympathy for them.

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        8 months ago

        OK but funding terrorist groups is an absolutely standard practice of empires, on a large scale in the past few centuries. They either do it quietly, “accidentally”, or rebrand the group in their propaganda (‘fighting for liberty/against oppression’ & stuff like that). “Terrorism” just means the predominant use of terror in a fight (instead of like regular direct war horrors where you kill 100+ thousand people in a single day by carpet bombing civilian population & that destruction itself is the main goal and terror just a lesser side effect). Terrorism is chapter, less death and destruction overall too, so major empires would usually start their conquests with that & save the direct military action (or economic ownership via corporations) for later.

        USA does that all the time in a very British Empire sort of way, either to fight the current government/regime/system they (economically mostly) dislike or to prolong some weird status quo. I mean, the ruling party of Israel has undeniable roots of terrorism (like literally, before joining with some other parties & a very vague rebranding since their beliefs didn’t change all that much). Same with Palestinian ruling party (but you know, they just used to live there, so under conditions like that an organisation like that sort of libration-terrorist grup is bound to emerge - and this was known throughout the formation of Israel). And both parties were democratically elected iirc.

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          8 months ago

          Oh okay well if it’s standard practice we should totally allow Israel to use their existence as a scapegoat to bomb schools, hospitals, and drop them on the heads of children. We should let them transparently make safe zones for refugees and the bomb them.

          The people who defend Israel cannot win the moral argument but please feel free to try. You look like fucking ghouls.