Title says most of it. Spin electric scooters exited the Seattle market and abandoned their scooters all over the city and apparently they have a pi 4 in them!

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    1 year ago

    So are rentals scooters still popular in US cities or has that trend subsided? Last I heard people were getting fed up finding them everywhere, problems with vandals, etc.

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      My city still has them. They get picked up every night and put at whatever corners or lots they gather them to.

      Honestly in my experience anyone that’s complained about them has no idea at all what they do or how they work, so anyone “fed up finding them everywhere” is simply ignorant 99% of the time. They’re supposed to be everywhere lol that’s the entire point.

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        That’s all fine until they’re blocking sidewalks and access ways. Trying to push a stroller or wheelchair through the renta-scooter slalom course is horrible.

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          In my city, we have strict parking designated zones and you have to take a photo. If it’s left on the sidewalk or road, it won’t let you end the trip, implies it will fine you, plus they’ll send someone to move it.

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            I walk 20 minutes each way to and from work, and every single day at least once I’m having to skirt around a stack of scooters that some asshole has just dumped in the middle of the footpath blocking most of it.

            I’m able bodied so at worst it’s annoying having to walk on the muddy grass, but if I was in anyway disabled - required a wheelchair, or a mobility scooter, or just crutches - it will effectively render the footpath impassable.

            If the scooter companies are going to take over public property for their own private profit, they should at a minimum be paying to rent space from the city - same as if you want to hold a private concert in a public park

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              This is less a problem about the actual scooters though and more of an issue with the people using them (or people setting them up) not giving a damn about where they’re left.

              I have mobility issues and can’t use the footpath on Fridays because that’s rubbish collection day and people just leave their bins in the middle of the footpath. People in my area also park on the footpaths, across the foot paths and leave all sorts of crap from their property leaning out onto them. That’s despite it being illegal to do so.

              If most people used the scooters responsibly (put their bins out responsibly, parked their cars on their property or road, etc. etc.) it would mostly be a non-issue.

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            I didn’t say they block every sidewalk in the city. I said when they DO it’s extremely disruptive. Relax.

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            S/He is not. Even one blocked sidewalk means that I need to double back on the block if I am using my wheelchair. One scooter is all it takes, and depending on the length of the block, it can easily add 20 minutes to a commute.

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        Them ‘supposed to be everywhere’ doesn’t change that fact that they litter up the sidewalk and use the public areas of my town as a pseudo frontage for their business.

        I have no problem with the bike systems that have docs for the bikes, it centralizes the locations and keeps the bike organized.

        It’s not ignorance, it’s a full understanding that they pollute the public areas and already limited walkways in my city.

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          Ohmygod people other than you are using the public services! The pollution!

          Seriously though, it’s going to be different in every city. Your city might not be a good place for them. My city has them being used all the time.

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            They are a for profit company, not a public service.

            The scooters are not a problem on wide sidewalks and are better than more vehicle traffic, but they can certainly get in the way on narrow sidewalks.

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              In some countries the public transport is run by for-profit companies too. In my city, for example, ALL of the public transport are contracted private companies. They’re all liveried as public transport, but they’re still privately run.

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        I guess that puts me in the 1%. I live in Richmond, VA. It’s a great city for scooters and on occasion I will rent one. That said, they really do literally litter the sidewalks. If I go for a run, I will 100% have to avoid scooters that have been improperly parked and are blocking the sidewalk. I feel bad for disabled people because sometimes the sidewalk is completely blocked for somebody in a wheelchair. There are too many of them for the demand. It can be quite annoying.

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      In my European city they’re still popular but imho it’s a grift to get money from investors with large pockets. I see brands popping out and go out of the market in 6 months. They just need to lose just the right amount of money in order to have the longest list of supported cities at the moment of raising capital. It’s an application that’s too expensive for every day use (1 euro unlock fee + 20 cents a minute in a city with a subway and extensive bus network???) but at the same time that ridiculous amount of money is clearly not enough to be sustainable. And they all use dark patterns. App forces you to register with email and sms verification just to see prices and you need to recharge credit that you might be never be able to use. Most they auto charge the credit card for 10 euro as soon as the credit goes under 5 euro.

      Maybe the real money making activity is unusable credit in user accounts?

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      1 year ago

      I can’t say anything about US cities, but they are all over the place in Canadian cities(or at least they are where I live)

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      Denver still has a ton of them. They’re still a huge logistics problem, but the city seems to be putting “protected” lanes in to help with scooters and bikes. Time will tell.

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      My city still has them. They’re pretty widely used, but I think we’re a good scenario for them. Our sidewalks aren’t cramped, we’re a very spread out city, and our public transit isn’t stellar.

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      I live in a major US city, and yes they are still everywhere and being used. Here they have an actual use since walkability isn’t the best, and at worse are just a nuisance with the way they block parts of the sidewalk and can be left anywhere with little consequence.

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      They didn’t last where I live, but my mother lives in a town about an hour away (Bloomington, Indiana) which still has them, and they appear to be popular.

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      They took them out of my small town, mostly due to the company (I think it was Bird in our area) not picking them up for weeks on end.

      I’m personally glad they’re gone, too many douche canoes leaving them in the handicapped parking spots and on the walking trails. Finally had to lodge a complaint with the company when we found a bunch of them in front of the ER at my workplace…not like we have people who have mobility issues going in there or anything.

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        Which is incredibly gross. Stealing components from them is at least practical, but destroying them for funsies is equal parts childish and wasteful and not to mention dangerous. No one needs additional garbage to fish out of the water.

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                They take up way less space than what’s allocated for cars. But because it appears different you’ll not notice that the car parking takes away so much space that could be allocated to e.g. a wider sidewalk, dedicated bike lines, more green, or parking for more space efficient methods of transport such as rental scooters.

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                  I’m against car parking on streets too, that doesn’t mean random companies should get to dump their product anywhere they want on the sidewalks.

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        Yeah I saw a couple videos of people magnet fishing them out. The one amazingly still worked!