• uralsolo [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    This flew over your head but it is heavily implied that the US’ “war on opium” was in fact a deliberate effort to subsidize opium production and transport, a policy that we have pursued for the benefit of our own state-backed terror organizations in many other countries. Regardless of all other opinions on the US and the Taliban, this is an issue that the Taliban is objectively better than us on, and saying “lol who cares” is not an argument against talking about it since obviously the people in this thread care because they’re in here talking about it.

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      This flew over your head but it is heavily implied

      are logical fallacies all you guys know?

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        That’s not the creation of a straw man, that is an accusation I’m making of you, specifically, based on the fact that your comment in no way addressed the idea. If you read my comment you’ll see that I also address your “argument” directly.

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          That’s not the creation of a straw man

          I saw this in another comment, I think it works here:

          “nuh-uh” isn’t a convincing argument. most people learn this when they’re 5.

          hat is an accusation I’m making of you, specifically, based on the fact that your comment in no way addressed the idea

          just because you don’t understand (or refuse to acknowledge) what I said doesn’t make me wrong or you right.

          If you read my comment you’ll see that I also address your “argument” directly.

          with a logical fallacy. I pointed this out

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            “nuh-uh” isn’t a convincing argument.

            lmao. Let’s review what you said that I responded to.

            lmao, so? we get it. you hate the US. what’s your point? just to come here and whine about it?

            🤡 “Why would you post world news in a world news community? Who cares?”

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              🤡 “Why would you post world news in a world news community? Who cares?”

              when you have t twist my words into something other than what they meant just to score imaginary points, it’s not me who looks bad… ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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                I quoted you incredulously asking why someone would post and comment about this and then made a comical version of you incredulously asking why someone would post and comment about this. That’s not a straw man, unless you’re trying to tell me that you’re a scarecrow (because you certainly need a brain).

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                  you misrepresented what I said to make the argument easier to defeat.

                  when your unimaginative rhetorical tricks fail, you hurl insults.

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                    You’re complaining about hurling insults? Here’s you in this thread:

                    what’s your point? just to come here and whine about it?

                    are logical fallacies all you guys know?

                    “nuh-uh” isn’t a convincing argument. most people learn this when they’re 5.

                    “I know you are but what am I?” is not a convincing argument. most people learn this when they’re 5.

                    your inability/refusal to understand is not my problem

                    I’m amazed you didn’t snap your own neck with those mental gymnastics

                    Insufferable

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            Who said I was arguing with you, dipshit? What would the point of that be? I’ve seen how you act. You ignore literally everything everyone says and post clippings from a high school textbook you clearly never read and don’t understand.

            And what the fuck would I be making an argument about in the first place? You aren’t talking about anything. Shame on my comrades for engaging with you for anything other than to bully your ass for being a blight on the conversation other people are having around you.

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              Who said I was arguing with you, dipshit?

              you replied to my comment. are you lost? lol

              and your childish tantrums and name-calling don’t impress me, nor does your bullying. all it tells me is that you’re so afraid of losing an argument to a stranger on the internet, it drives you into a blind rage.

              that’s how much control you give to strangers because you have no control over yourself.

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            Still +5 upvotes on this six hours later, huh?

            Weird how the only people who find value in your comments only ever show up right when you make them.

            garf-troll

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              says the troll

              you’ve been at this for over 6 hours…

              it’s 3:48a on the east coast. it’s more likely those few people went to sleep than your paranoid delusion is true, even after you keep moving the goal posts.

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                Yeah but I’ve been taking breaks and not really doing this with anyone else. I just looked at the thread again.

                You’re replying to EEEEEVVVVVEEEERRRRRYYYYYOOOOONNNNNNEEEEE

                Why are YOU doing this to YOUR self? It’s amazing. It’s like you have a supervisor breathing down your neck to keep you posting.

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              Difference is I explicitly said I wasn’t arguing

              you lied. shocking!

              If you think you’re winning an argument… what’s it about?

              you tell me. you’re the one who came here to troll

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                That’s right. I came here to troll you, not argue.

                Why do you keep acting like I’m not making good arguments when I tell you I’m not arguing in the first place?

                Answer please.

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                  That’s right. I came here to troll you, not argue.

                  and you’re proud of this? lmao

                  Why do you keep acting like I’m not making good arguments

                  acting? who’s acting? do you think you’re at the movies or watching tv? lmao

                  Answer please.

                  why should I?

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        You know we are leftists here. You can just say you are into your wife sleeping with other men. We respect a diversity of lifestyles. You don’t have to do the whiskey overcompensation persona thing here. We can accept and respect who you are.

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          You know we are leftists here. You can just say you are into your wife sleeping with other men. We respect a diversity of lifestyles. You don’t have to do the whiskey overcompensation persona thing here. We can accept and respect who you are.

          you have a talent for self-contradictory speech. the way you mix the word “respect” with overflowing disrespect, how you espouse leftism and diversity while speaking the sexism and misogyny of a fascist… it’s artful.

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            you have a talent for self-contradictory speech. the way you mix the word “respect” with overflowing disrespect, how you espouse leftism and diversity while speaking the sexism and misogyny of a fascist… it’s artful.

            Wtf are you talking about? Nobody said anything sexist or misogynyst. Words have meaning. Saying that you’re into cuckoldry has nothing to do with being sexist to women. It’s rude to you yes but fascist? Come the fuck on. Stop saying socialists are fascist for fuck’s sake it’s unbelievably cringe and nobody is buying it.

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            It is artful. That is the point. Further, the only sexism I talked about is the internalized negative self image that would lead a person to think ‘whiskey pickle’ is anything other than a cringe attempt to develop a self identity by subverting the worst societie’s worst instincts. Most of us here have done worse, but we grew stronger and passed through that phase. Join us.

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              It is artful. That is the point.

              artful trolling and disingenuousness is the point? and you proud of that? ew…

              Further, the only sexism I talked about is the internalized negative self image that would lead a person to think ‘whiskey pickle’ is anything other than a cringe attempt to develop a self identity by subverting the worst societie’s worst instincts.

              OR I like a drink called a pickleback, which is a shot of whiskey served with a pickle brine chaser, and you’ve decided to demonize me because of your own deep-seated insecurities that you’re projecting onto me.

              ut thanks for that revolting glimpse into your psyche…

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                No doubt you like a whisky drink, but why? Is it you are drawn to the stereotypically masculine drink because you feel your masculinity is threatened by some other aspect of your life? It just feels performative is all.

                I could be reading more into it that in there. However your completely uncritical regurgitating of western propaganda can only lead me to belive introspection is not a well developed skill in your life.

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                  I could be reading more into it that in there

                  yeah, you just told me a bunch of your insecurities.

                  I just had this drink once and thought it was a goofy name, but, WOW… you ran with that….

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                    Yet am I wrong? You have not been able to refute any point I made. You are obviously a little emotional but I think you still have potential