• InverseParallax@lemmy.world
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    23 hours ago

    Your second link agrees with me, it was Ukraine. The mad fuckers pulled it off, we might have helped but even that is more than I’d imagine, our administration is timid AF when it comes to Ukraine and any kind of direct or even covert action.

    I get why you’d be furious, but they were defending their homeland, and let’s be honest, yours too, if Ukraine had fallen Putin and Xi would have felt they could ask for a lot and we know how that road goes.

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      19 hours ago

      I fully support Ukrainian independence but it is being used as a proxy war between the US and Russia right now. They went from a Russian dictator in 2014 to Zelensky now.

      America vetoeing the 2022 peace talks to send more Ukrainians into the meat grinder tells it all. At some point a diplomatic solution must be reached. Support is already fading and the only thing this prolonged war has achieved is the death of more Ukrainians and Russians (and profits for Raytheon)

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        13 hours ago

        Yeah, that was my bad, I’m not used to checking the user instance.

        Merkel made a catastrophic mistake in treating Russia like an rational actor, they’re not, they’re basically wh40k orks who see weakness and work themselves up into a grievance rage about how the west and everyone else is conspiring to keep Russia from its destined role as world leaders, until they finally reach a threshold and go on a Wauggh.

        Like orks, they don’t stop until their bloodlust is beaten by their fear.

        As an American, we need to give them all our weapons, free of charge, the thought of my taxes going to their rightful purpose of butchering Russians by the hundreds of thousands warms my heart.

        We need give them f35s, Ai drone swarms, everything, we need to help them exterminate every vatnik in ukrainian borders within a month.

        Alternatively, we admit we will not satisfy the Budapest memorandum and leave Ukraine to their fate.

        I’m fine with either path honestly.

        For the second path, we would be honor bound to restore the nuclear weapons Ukraine surrendered, or equivalent, I suppose a single Ohio ssbn fully loaded with tridents should suffice.

        At that point Ukraine and Russia could begin negotiations for peace.

        Personally I don’t think any of this will end until 10-20m Russians have died, it’s the only language they understand, and they’re slow there as well.

        Russia started this war to look strong to their partner China, they look far weaker than imaginable, the end game is to partition Russia, the west goes to the European sphere, the east goes to China giving them the resources and land they are so desperate for, and both sides get 50-100 years of peace.

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          9 hours ago

          We need give them f35s, Ai drone swarms, everything, we need to help them exterminate every vatnik in ukrainian borders within a month.

          That would make Ukraine win the conventional war and promptly get them nuked. The American goal is not to have Ukraine win the war.

          Unless Ukraine gets nukes (which America took from them in exchange for a false security guarantee) there is no way Ukraine can win. Not to mention Russia can nuke the rest of Europe.