A mild but noticeable shift to the right, even more than Biden -> Harris so no more Bernie, Walz or AOC, compromising on social policy (especially immigration, but also trans rights, guns etc).
Otherwise business as usual. If trump croaks and desantis/vance takes the reigns they might be competent enough to get enough of Project 2025 underway that by the next cycle the institutions of the country will be so eroded that Democrats will be reduced to permanent “opposition” status to maintain a sense of democracy rather than any real democracy,
it will not actually be possible to elect them, a few cycles and they will either dissolve or implode, then is replaced with a GOP faction.
If it makes Americans feel any better, the Roman Republic still survived as an Empire for centuries long after it’s military dictatorship carousel of clowns and opportunists eroded the republic’s institutions and kept all that SPQR stuff just for aesthetics and a national identity
The idea that fascists might still be wearing America’s corpse long after it’s dead does not in fact make me feel any better. Honestly, I doubt they’ll be able to keep it together anywhere near that long, but it might last longer than I do, which is bad enough. Not that I much want to be around for the self-destruction, either.
Here’s to hoping that the Democrats can win and keep this country limping along until someone better comes around. At this point that’s the best hope this dumpster fire has left.
Didn’t mean to imply it was a good thing, but that you and your family and friends might at least be somewhat safe from immediate hardship of something as bad as the collapse of a nation-state
compromising on social policy (especially immigration . . . )
That compromise has already happened. Harris is currently campaigning on a hardline border policy and touting that she tried to get essentially Trump’s 2020 border policy through the legislature.
If the Dems lose, they will move right. If they win, they will move right. Without a strong leftist opposition (not just voice, but opposition), they will keep moving right term after term after term while touting superficial bullshit to try to please people who have a conscience but very little political education.
There was a thread just yesterday about why the Democrats haven’t done anything progressive in so long, and people were seriously touting Harris being black like that at all matters in the face of her being a cop, or like it’s actual policy and not just the incidental identity of their prospective President. I wrote a whole thing on it before deleting it because I just can’t stand to talk to people like that anymore.
(especially immigration, but also trans rights, guns etc).
They should absolutely drop guns entirely, and focus on root causes of violence (…which are largely economic and related to the ‘war on drugs’). If Dems entirely dropped gun/feature/magazine bans as a policy point, and never brought it up again, they could peel away a lot of Republican voters. In much the same way, that there are a lot of women that are very conservative that would vote Republican if only Republicans dropped abortion/birth control/IVF/etc.
As an aside to this, Dems constant calls to ban guns actually increases firearm sales. Dropping it as a political point would decrease the overall number of arms sold each year. It would also slow down the guntubers grift of using 2A rights as a way to shift people farther to the right on social and economic issues.
A mild but noticeable shift to the right, even more than Biden -> Harris so no more Bernie, Walz or AOC, compromising on social policy (especially immigration, but also trans rights, guns etc).
Otherwise business as usual. If trump croaks and desantis/vance takes the reigns they might be competent enough to get enough of Project 2025 underway that by the next cycle the institutions of the country will be so eroded that Democrats will be reduced to permanent “opposition” status to maintain a sense of democracy rather than any real democracy,
it will not actually be possible to elect them, a few cycles and they will either dissolve or implode, then is replaced with a GOP faction.
If it makes Americans feel any better, the Roman Republic still survived as an Empire for centuries long after it’s military dictatorship carousel of clowns and opportunists eroded the republic’s institutions and kept all that SPQR stuff just for aesthetics and a national identity
The idea that fascists might still be wearing America’s corpse long after it’s dead does not in fact make me feel any better. Honestly, I doubt they’ll be able to keep it together anywhere near that long, but it might last longer than I do, which is bad enough. Not that I much want to be around for the self-destruction, either.
Here’s to hoping that the Democrats can win and keep this country limping along until someone better comes around. At this point that’s the best hope this dumpster fire has left.
Didn’t mean to imply it was a good thing, but that you and your family and friends might at least be somewhat safe from immediate hardship of something as bad as the collapse of a nation-state
That compromise has already happened. Harris is currently campaigning on a hardline border policy and touting that she tried to get essentially Trump’s 2020 border policy through the legislature.
If the Dems lose, they will move right. If they win, they will move right. Without a strong leftist opposition (not just voice, but opposition), they will keep moving right term after term after term while touting superficial bullshit to try to please people who have a conscience but very little political education.
There was a thread just yesterday about why the Democrats haven’t done anything progressive in so long, and people were seriously touting Harris being black like that at all matters in the face of her being a cop, or like it’s actual policy and not just the incidental identity of their prospective President. I wrote a whole thing on it before deleting it because I just can’t stand to talk to people like that anymore.
I do not agree. Biden may not be a flashy big reform guy but in practice he is basically the most progressive president since FDR.
They should absolutely drop guns entirely, and focus on root causes of violence (…which are largely economic and related to the ‘war on drugs’). If Dems entirely dropped gun/feature/magazine bans as a policy point, and never brought it up again, they could peel away a lot of Republican voters. In much the same way, that there are a lot of women that are very conservative that would vote Republican if only Republicans dropped abortion/birth control/IVF/etc.
As an aside to this, Dems constant calls to ban guns actually increases firearm sales. Dropping it as a political point would decrease the overall number of arms sold each year. It would also slow down the guntubers grift of using 2A rights as a way to shift people farther to the right on social and economic issues.