And I’m being serious. I feel like there might be an argument there, I just don’t understand it. Can someone please “steelman” that argument for me?

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    Russian bots mostly, but also privileged people who think that a Trump presidency won’t affect them

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      Don’t underestimate the pissed off poor. The Dems kept telling them that things weren’t so bad while the Reps said they’d change things.

      The changes will of course be worse, but if things are clearly shit, and someone keeps telling you that it’s not that bad, you start to despise those people even if they’re the better choice.

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        Don’t underestimate the pissed off poor. The Dems kept telling them that things weren’t so bad while the Reps said they’d change things.

        Okay, but those aren’t the single-issue Gaza voters OP was asking about.

        Frankly, they should’ve been what OP was asking about though, because they were a way bigger factor (and always are, in every election, despite the Democrats abject refusal to acknowledge it).

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          The big group of voters that the Democrats didn’t see coming were the ton of racists and misogynistic assholes (mostly white but latino men also)

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        Do you have any examples of Dems telling people things werent bad? The closest things I can think of is dems saying we know things are bad but we are working on them and they are getting better. It feels like a republican talking point that dems think things are good.

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          “Bidenomics” and “Economy is doing great” and anything and everything involving the word “GDP”

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            Bidenomics is a right wing attack phrase and I’ve never heard Biden say the economy is doing great. So not sure what your point here was.

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              You’re right. I guess there’s the problem. I don’t doubt that if I also checked some other memories of Biden’s mistakes I’d find that I remember them how the right wants me to remember them.

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      also privileged people who think that a Trump presidency won’t affect them

      I’m a privileged person who probably won’t be directly affected by another Trump presidency. Probably. Hopefully.

      But anybody who genuinely holds that opinion, and doesn’t care what happens to everybody else, may as well just be a full-on trumper.