• N1cknamed@feddit.nl
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    I agree with you. Social media often jumps to extreme conclusions despite having zero involvement or context. We don’t know what’s really going on, and we shouldn’t be the ones to judge. Let the people involved figure it out themselves.

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      A person in a position of power does something unwanted to another person underneath his/her power. Then the person in a position of power claims the person underneath lied about consent. This is always the fault of the person in power. Shame on you for not having better judgment. Be better.

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        Does that something warrant him having his entire career ruined? Seems extreme.

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          That was the risk he chose to take when he took advantage of the power dynamic. None of us get to choose the severity of punishment for bad actions but we are responsible. And there is no question he is at fault here. You can reasonably argue the severity of punishment but no one should be questioning his accountability here.

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            I think that’s nonsense. We have no clue what the two have said to each other beforehand, how their relationship normally is, and whatever else may have been going on. And indeed, because of that lack of knowledge none of us should get to judge him. Yet everyone here does so anyway. The popular narrative is already that the mans whole life should be ruined over 1 kiss. Madness.

            The people involved should figure out a solution on their own. Not social media.

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              Wrong. The power dynamic is not equal. Therefore it is impossible to “figure out a solution on their own.” Your profound ignorance around abuses of power are shocking. Get help.

              Edit: I love how what appears to be a bunch of men on the internet defending the sexual assault of a woman beneath the male in the power dynamic. And all of her colleagues and teammates are defending her, not him. A story as old as time itself.

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                Any chance you can present your argument without resorting to personal attacks?

                All it does is make you look weak and unsure about your position, which makes rational people averse to accepting it at face value.

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                Quit it with the patronization. She seems to be managing fine and she can always step to whichever authority she needs, as they both have done. We’re not in any place to decide for any of them, because again, we do not know the full context. It’s delusional to believe you have the full grasp of the situation, and it’s a dangerous precedent to expect yourself to be able to judge the situation correctly. The internet loves to lynch and hates fair trials. Stop it.

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                  He abused the power dynamic. Cry about it all you want, but the guy who grabs his dick in front of a minor after a victory and who thinks he can sexually assault anyone he wants just fucked around and found out. Finally.

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                    Last I checked he’s still got his job. The event is already fading from public consciousness as the news moves on to the next thing to be mad about. The justice system can take it from here and decide what actually needs to be done. But the public lynching without trial has luckily failed. That’s the real abuse of power.

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        It’s okay, internet points matter even less here than they do on reddit. Quite liberating.

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          Yeah, it’s just an indicator that a bunch of random people have read your posts and independently decided you’re talking absolute shite. Probably nothing.

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            Oh no, some keyboard warriors have a different opinion of mine. How am I to survive?

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                “the people” it’s just this community. If I commented elsewhere I’d get very different vote results. It’s not all black and white.

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                  it’s just this community

                  Yes, it’s just this community for discussion of world news that literally anybody can join regardless of political beliefs or options.

                  If I commented elsewhere I’d get very different vote results

                  If only you had commented in a blatantly sexist community! You’d have tons of people agreeing with you then.

                  This is an “I’m 14 and this is deep” level of realization right here.

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                  Dang. That’s a real mature and comprehensive stance to take on the situation.

                  No wonder you’re getting downvoted by neurodivergent tribalists.

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                    It is sad to see that the hivemind exists just as much on Lemmy as it did on Reddit, tbh. People still haven’t figured out the points are meaningless and you can have your own opinions. Everyone keeps bringing up upvotes and downvotes like they’re supposed to have any significance. I genuinely could not care less. Sometimes people agree, sometimes they don’t. Such is life.