• ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website
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      18 days ago

      Most nations are built on genocide, it’s an unfortunate part of human nature to be cruel to those not like your group.I mean the last hundred years alone, the of Cossacks if Crimea, the holocaust, Kaiser run Germany committed one before WW2, Ottomans genocide Armenia, China is actively engaged in one now, as well as Israels current actions in Gaza, and that’s just off the top of my head, but somehow only the USA is built on it. You ignore the skeletons in your own foundations and dishonor yourself and their deaths by doing so

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          18 days ago

          The USA was built the same way all nations were, by subjugation and eradication but we are one of the few looked down on for it and outright called irredeemable for it

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            Oh! Lookie here, a fascist for breakfast. My day is off to a lovely start.

            The difference is in the history. America has NEVER been honest about its origins. No other modern nation was built on slavery like we were. Britain abolished it decades before America. And after WWII, they gave up the rest of their colonies because it was the right thing to do. That’s when the American Empire took off. Naval bases in every country. Global watchdog, above the laws everyone else has to follow.

            America? It only stopped genociding Indians when they were such a small population that they couldn’t pose a threat to the white man, and it still fucks them over every chance it can. Edit: oh yeah, and then it painted them as villains in cowboy movies for half a century. Nice.

            Racism is so deeply embedded in America that the simple claim that black lives matter turned into a controversy. You know what a normal nation would’ve done? Examine their police. Us? We said fuck those people, let the racist cops do whatever they want. Do you have any clue what it’s like to raise a black son in America? I’m white myself so I can’t speak firsthand, but I have talked to numerous people who’ve told me about “the Talk”. You know about this? It’s not the birds and the bees, it’s about how to behave around cops so they don’t kill you. How insanely fucked up does your country have to be for that??

            This is called honesty. Progress can’t be made without it.

            I’ve made it my life’s work to fight white supremacy in the blue collar South and I’ll fucking devour you whole.

            Edit: I’d like to print out to anyone stumbling across this that that sumbitch knows I’m right and is lying bloodied in the mud at my feet, crying, like a little bitch. Just like the ones I’ve beaten in real life after they insisted on dancing. Bullies have come after me my whole fuckin life and I’ve learned EXACTLY how they work. I know the strategies fascists use on forums like these. And I’ll bet you’ve logged me, maybe you’ve got someone looking into me. I don’t doubt the fascist Musk’s AI has flagged me for all kinds of shit and it’s just a matter of time now.

            I ain’t fuckin scared of you, and your mother should be ashamed.

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              14 hours ago

              You dishonor everyone who died fighting the fascists by misusing that word. You are screaming over the lived experience of an indigenous man and throwing slurs. Hell you accused me of working for Musk because I disagree with you partially. Do some introspection. But go on, tell me more about how you beat me, thump your chest and never stop to think

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                Excuse me? First off, you defended the US government. That was the point you made when prompted.

                Look I don’t try to talk over anyone. You didn’t bring identity into it until just now. I genuinely try to be mindful of my privilege at all times and have for a while.

                But you should know as well as anyone that the US is, especially now, a fascist dictatorship, and doesn’t need white knights (ironically) stepping up to say “oh poor America it gets such a bad rap for its long history of subjugation”.

                That was the point I was making. Which, I feel, is pretty fair. But I’ll listen if you’ve got something to say.