Lol “my breaking point?” So he’s insinuating that the way Dave was playing guitar somehow made him do it?

Yeah it’s crazy to me that british money weighs so much. Like c’mon guys just make it lighter it’s easier on your back!

His name is Bingo Gas Station Motel Cheeseburger With A Side of Aircraft Noise And You’ll Be Gary, Indiana.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SSyI1luWog

Nah it’s all a scam, it costs about $130,000 to become clear, and then another $30,000 ish to become level “OTIII,” Then another $130,000 to become OTVIII which is the highest current level, just to learn that South Park’s Scientology episode was actually accurate to what these people actually believe.

Tbf I was not, and not knowing specifics of your situation I’m not sure how that translates to long term abusive partners and cults, actually, but on the surface that seems psychologically different. As it relates to the conversation at hand I’m bot sure how much decision making power kindergarteners have, though the abuser uses similar vectors in that kids are vulnerable by default and cult victims are vulnerable by circumstance. Sorry you went through that and all however, of course.

Frankly I use religion and cult interchangeably, there’s not much difference. The main separation is age, really. That means yes I often refer to say, Catholicism, as a cult as well.

(Edit: And btw, I referred to Masterson’s victim’s unknown religions as “religions,” not “Scientology.” If some of them are scientologists then I suppose I technically did by happenstance, but you pretending you didn’t understand that just because you don’t want to concede that I’m actually right and use it as a personal attack is pretty funny.)

You can just say you have no idea what it’s like to be seriously abused and move on. Tbh, that’s good, I hope for your sake you never know.

Not being familiar with each of their religions they are certainly victims of Masterson, they may or may not be victims of scientology. But the members of scientology (specificially not management), are victims of scientology. Cults prey on the weak, you don’t have to too.

Tell me, do you also think women are only victims of their abusers once they leave too or is that criticism reserved only for people who are abused on a larger scale by their entire community?

Cedric and his wife are also victims. There are typically more than two victims involved in a cult.

The difference is I consider all the members of the cult who have been abused and manipulated into the position they’re in by the leadership to be victims, and you only seem to consider someone a victim if they’ve already started the process of breaking free.

Should be? No, nobody should be subjected to that abuse. But she is, and has been since she was born into it. Some things just are whether they “should be” or not. It’s life. I bet if when she was born they said “will you defend our cult against rapists? If no say no and we won’t let you in, if yes say nothing.” She probably would have picked “No” had she not been a literal baby who had yet to learn english. But they don’t, they slowly ramp up the abuse until escaping is at least psychologically neigh impossible.

You can blame her for being a victim of this cult all you want, it’s not really my fight and my guess is you’ll never understand until you’ve been in a comparable situation (which is hopefully never) so it would be a waste of time. I’ve said my piece.

I see a defensible position:

Cults are basically abusive boyfriends x1000.

If you leave or speak out, goodbye all family and friends you’ve ever known.

She was born into this.

You ever been brainwashed, either by a cult or just an abusive ex? I wouldn’t wish it on anyone, but it would help you gain a deeper understandings of the inner workings of a cult, and how they retain their victims.

Scientoligists are anti therapy and anti psychology

All cults are, really, because the therapist can see that the cult is basically an abusive partner x1000 and try to decondition the members.

“Plus, that money should be going to the church, or in this case your therapy sessions with us so you can become ‘clear.’ Don’t you want to give us $300,000 so we can tell you your soul is an alien and Xenu is trying to eat it or enslave it or something?”

Tbh it’s really hard to reverse brainwashing and conditioning and speak out which means you lose your entire family and friends (that are also in the cult), whether you were raised in it or tricked into it yourself is even of little consequence.

To expect someone to say “oh hey I got a little professional success now I should by default make my friends and family and entire community hate me and make the most litigious cult mad at me (no way they’d want a piece of the success I’m leaving them for, right?), and go against all the crazy shit I’ve spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on trying to become ‘clear’ or ‘OTVIII’ (just to learn what South Park already taught us no less).” isn’t wrong but it is unrealistic. She’ll need a whole ass deconditioning really, or at least it’s something that will take quite a long time.

Cults are fucked, way more so than you may think, and this whole “why doesn’t she just leave” thing, it’s basically the same question as “why doesn’t she just leave her abusive boyfreind.” Maybe it’s impossible to understand either until you’ve been through one, idk.

Nah, a simple name change solves the problem, as mentioned with Joy Division/New Order.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, when Dio took over they should have renamed the band itself to Heaven and Hell, Sabbath lives and dies with the combo of Ozzy, Tony, Geezer, and Bill.

They could get you expelled at mine, but not charged. IIRC even water guns would get you actually charged. Tbf it was shortly after 9/11, but still.

I know, I’m not happy about that.

I can never get a CG invite, personally, I’ve basically given up except for that offer in my bio to eternally curse your enemies for one (still standing btw).

Unfortunately they never do sign ups, open or interviewed, and even if they did interview I’m only on IPT, which nobody takes as proof lmao. I mostly use usenet these days unfortunately, but at least it does have it’s benefits, DrunkenSlug accts are easier to come by and it is faster, and they have many things, but unfortunately lack B movies and other stuff I’m really into, but at least there’s IPT, slsk, yt-dl and internetarchive for some of those.

I think the logic is “it could be a threat” but yeah it’s dumb either way, unless it is a threat I guess.

Yess YEESSS! Gabba gabba we accept you, one of us! One of us!

Free him and return his money. The man made AI music, of course bots liked it it was made by them for them. Call it an art project, quit your crying, and free the dude!

Honestly if you figured out lemmy you can figure out linux at least enough not to be a 95yo about it.

Use a distro that is both popular and good for beginners, like Fedora or it’s KDE spin, or Mint. There will be learning, there probably will be troubleshooting, you’re switching from something you’ve always been familiar with to a new thing, it is unavoidable. It’s like moving to Mexico, you’ll need to pick up at least a little Spanish. It’s really not as hard as people make it seem, most questions will be solved by searching the problem and pasting in a terminal command, but it’s good to learn what those commands do over time. It might benefit you to use the computer more often while learning if possible.

Do it, you’ll be fine!