Again, if it was as a precaution against an ambush (which is known to be basically the only way Hamas fights) then you can’t blame him.
That man is poor for being in that spot, but what legit what can you expect from soldiers in a war zone where every day an ambush happens.
“Oh then I guess I’ll just won’t leave my home and wait for certain death to come to me”
Bro WHAT. How is it even the IDF’s responsibility to provide safe spaces in Gaza? Did Hamas provide “safe spaces” on 7/10? Did Hezbollah provide “safe spaces” before bombing houses? No one expects them to do anything before attacking, but everyone expects Israel to not only tell before an attack to evacuate, but to secure that evacuation place. That’s such hypocrisy.
“hamas is a political party” is the same energy as “north korea is a political party” and “china is a political party”. No elections in 18 years isn’t something a working government does.
And it’s widely known that Hamas has no uniforms, and use civilian clothing when fighting. Heck, on 7/10 there were plenty who were IDF uniforms (I guess from fallen soldiers). Differentiating based on clothes is legit impossible.
And about surrendered foes, I completely agree. No reason if you know they’re of no harm. But again, based on what Israel tells us (I doubt it aswell, but idk) there were instances of people “surrendering” and then bombing themselves. Not a trustworthy source at all, but idk… It’s not that hard to believe it.
To be fair, that area is considered an active war zone, and all civillians knew that way ahead of the invasion.
If it was intentional, fuck him. But if it was by mistake and as a precaution against Hamas (who are known to wear civilian clothes) - then you really can’t blame them for not wanting to be ambushed.
How are ya’ll expecting an army to act in a war zone?
You can bet many Hamas terrorists already put up a white flag, as IDF testimony say they were already tricked by false “white flags”.
Heck, 3 hostages were killed by the IDF because it was near a fighting area, where Hamas terrorists used the same tactics as the hostages - writing in Hebrew, waving white flags, shouting for help.
The IDF either really suck at recognizing a threat (highly unlikely) or they learned from their mistakes of listening to anyone who isn’t verified friendly.
This whole war is such a tragedy…
Lol makes much more sense now
As much as I agree on the “no dealing with terrorist” rule, you can’t expect the families to not protest and do everything in their power to get their loved ones homes.
People in Palestine actually welcome them
Hhmmmmmmmm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_and_massacres_in_Mandatory_Palestine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relations_between_Nazi_Germany_and_the_Arab_world
They 100% should and that should be the main criticism towards Israel. Them funding Gaza - which means funding the Gazan government - Hamas - is how they got such good weapons and a large arsenal as they did. The world should 100% condemn anyone who funds them, and yet barely anyone does.
Maybe the PNA is not the best case for peace in the region, since it pays for families of suicide bombers and calls for intifadas, but they’re 100% better than Hamas. And Israel should at least support them more than Hamas.
Nothing to gain? What about an actual decent level of living? Palestinians in the west bank aren’t happy, but they’re so much more happy than Palestinians in Gaza.
From their own point of view, Hamas rule brings nothing but destruction. Resisting more just slaps them back tenfold. No one wants that, ever. And if they do, then idk what to say to them. I sympathize with their suffering, but their choice is heavily to blame.
And oh please. Calling Israel a genocidal Apartheid state is exactly the propaganda which will cause more violence in the region. Do you want “justice” or do you want people not dying? Personally I don’t like people dying, so I like to not villainize any side, when both sides have suffered from the other’s aggression. Calling one side genocidal and the other martyrs is exactly why we have this conflict.
And do what instead? Say “oh jee Hamas, you got us!” And continue living with a constant threat over civilian lives???
Nothing will stop Israel except a Palestinian leader who actually stops preaching for violence and “resistance”, and doesn’t fund terror in the region. Meanwhile, 0 Palestinian leaders have done so. And when the Palestinian consensus is “destroy Israel”, why would Israel stop their invasion? They’re objectively evil in Israeli eyes, and Israel has the means to actually properly do something about it.
Actually maybe a third-party governing Gaza would also stop the Israeli invasion. But who tf would wanna take that role.
LOL I swear you have to be kidding.
Seriously, read a bit on the power balance at the time dude. On one side Israel with a much lower population and people who are Holocaust survivors, fighting after 2 weeks of training. And on the other side, you have the (actual full fledged powerful) armies of Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, Saudi Arabia and Iraq. Oh and also arab Palestinian militants - back when they could be called militants instead of terrorists, since they targeted military targets instead of civilians.
Seriously, just read even one sentence from someone who knows more than you, and see that the jews were by far the weaker side and it’s a miracle they weren’t slaughtered.
Oh and learn what genocide means, since you clearly don’t know when to use it. Palestinians didn’t get a genocide - they got immigration. They got casualties. They got humiliation. And guess what? That’s what happens in wars. Especially wars you both declared and lost.
Whatever, I really don’t care about what you think. You can blame it all on one side, ignoring the ruthlessness of the other on their enemies and even on their own citizens. Just ignore Hamas hiding guns in schools, ignore them firing rockets from public parks, ignore them targeting civilians (with no military infrastructure/personnel). Just ignore it all, and blame the jews for everything. Just like the 1930s. “War crimes” my ass. If you really cared about war crimes you would’ve complained to Hamas, not the IDF.
“murder does not justify more murder”
The murder which is happening is by a war. If you don’t know that, you’re living under a rock. And what I said, is that this war is justified. So yes, this is exactly what you said, you just deny it. War = murder. “Murder isn’t justified” -> “war isn’t justified”. Very simple logic.
Again, when does any of that “proof” video say jews stole land? And again, not the 48 war, since it has the cause of migration in the name itself - war. If war is ethnic cleansing then ohhhh boy are there many ethnic cleansing in the world, and Palestinians are so not special. Don’t ignore context. Yes, many Palestinians were refugees. But no, it wasn’t because of zionism. It was because of the war. Before the war, there were no Palestinian refugees - because unlike what Al Jazeera preaches, zionism was a settlement movement, and a peaceful one. If Palestinian arabs weren’t violent in the resistance to zionism, there would’ve been no violence. But no, they were violent. Same with their arab neighbours, who want nothing more than death to their neighboring jews.
Dude those same civilian facilities are proven to store artillery. Once a site is being used for war purposes, don’t be surprised that it’s being destroyed - in a war.
Everybody is criticizing Israel for bombing UN facilities, while no one critisizes Hamas for storing ammunition in said facilities. That’s just hypocrisy.
Oh so war is never justified then huh? When you’ve been massacared with intent for further destruction by that same people, you can’t retaliate, you’re just supposed to sit back and cry about it. Sure, ok.
Source?
Early zionism is literally just buying land from arabs in Palestine and growing jewish population in said areas. Idk where you got that info from, of alegged stealing of houses, but that just isn’t true. Maybe you speak of the 48 war? Which is much later, and is after a full blown war, which everyone acknowledges that there were refugees from said war, and that jews inhabited abandoned arab houses after they left the country. It’s like Syrian immigrants going back to Syria after years of being immigrants and demanding the current people who live where their house used to be (or whatever stands in that place) to give that house back to them. That just isn’t how war or the world works.
Oh damn I guess churchill is a murderer monster huh.
Intention matters. The fact that you ignore it, is bad.
“less rapy and genocidy” you mean… Like exactly what Hamas did that started this whole war, who got that old man killed? Then sure. I expect every human to not rape and kill innocents.