circuscritic

I’m going to need you to actually quote which part of my comment you’re responding to.

As far as I can tell, what you wrote has exactly nothing to do with anything that I said.

At no point did I mention laws, or legal loopholes.

And I certainly never mentioned anything about the United States, or the legal liability of Twitter, except as in response to your comment.

I think you’re confusing my acknowledgment of the daily reality of a country that is currently divided between 3 and 5 major and minor factions, all in various states of civil conflict, with being something else entirely.

I wasn’t providing any opinion, or analysis, on the legality from Twitter’s perspective. I certainly wasn’t making any comparisons to laws in the United States and Yemen, or anything else that you’ve been talking about since your first comment.

I would make the “duh no shit this is clickbait” observation if the BBC ran yet another story about how kids are selling drugs on Snapchat or Instagram.

You mean the first three paragraphs describing a few ads on Twitter for weapons?

Followed by the BBC, quoting other British “NGO” organizations, trying to rally people to support additional actions against a group that Britain currently engaged in military actions against? Yes, I read that as well.

The article reads like two separate articles pasted together by a moron. The only connective tissue between the Twitter ads, and the Houthis, was that the weapons traders lived an area controlled by them. News flash, the Houthis control a majority of the country.

So again, in a country that has had an active civil war since 2014, it’s not surprising that people are selling weapons anywhere and everywhere, online, and off.

Why are you assuming that there is a state of law and order to any degree, outside of maybe the capital…?

Are you aware that we’re talking about Yemen…?

Notice that Wikipedia page for their civil war doesn’t currently have an end date i.e. it’s still active…

It’s not like Twitter is providing up support for these transactions, I’m saying it’s not surprising they exist on a public forum like Twitter for a country that’s ravaged by a decade war and famine.

Just like how kids in the United States sell drugs on Twitter or Instagram.

So no, Twitter is not automatically liable just because people are abusing the platform. I’m not saying it can’t get there, just that it’s not that simple.

Regardless, I wasn’t saying anything about the legality of it for Twitter.

Your reading comprehension is so absurdly bad, that I got to believe you’re either trolling, insane, or on a lot of Adderall. I’m out lol.

I’m having a hard time finding where I said that I wanted to live under Houthi rule, or when I denied their status as militant Islamists.

Can you please scroll up to my other comments and point those out for me? Thanks in advance.

Oh, and just a reminder to anyone who actually made it this far into this idiotic rabbit hole, my original comment was that it is entirely unsurprising that Yemeni civilians are buying arms to wherever they can, be it Twitter or a local marketplace, due to the past decade of conflict, years long aerial bombing campaign, and famine.

I can’t tell if you’re a troll, or actually insane. But I guess those don’t have to be mutually exclusive.

I didn’t denounce anyone, even among the groups and actors I mentioned. I simply gave a very brief look at situation. You’re mad that I didn’t provide a complete and detailed analysis, which is irrelevant to my point about civilians bearing arms.

Not for nothing, but your politics are pretty clear, and if it was relevant at ALL to this subject, I’d happily engage. But it’s not, so stop yelling into the wind to distract from the fact that your comments are clearly about your disdain of the Yemini people.

No, we’re acknowledging that countries wrecked by civil war and intermittent famines going back a decade, aren’t known for their ability to police domestic issues fairly, on time, or even at all. I’d be more interested to know what percent of the households are NOT armed.

For the record, I said nothing about any government, or political groups/militias. They’re armed primarily by their proxy sponsor, I’m talking about retail arms sale to civilians, bandits, normies, and scared parents alike.

Unless you think IRCG is arming the Houthis via Twitter.

This is bordering on clickbait, because of course weapons are being sold in some form or fashion at most forums or marketplace in Yemen.

It’s a country that has been wrecked by civil war and years of a genocidal air campaign by the Saudis, and now intermittent targeted strikes by American and British naval forces.

I would be shocked if most of those people aren’t also selling those openly at their local Bazaar or market.

This is 98% the right answer, but you drop them somewhere that keeps them intact, and believable enough so that people take them, and spend the rest of the weekend going to thrift stores trying to find an external floppy drive, and the next month trying to figure out how to get their iPhone to mount it.

Sounds like it’ll be family friendly game shows and Christian reality TV.

Honestly, that might actually be a profitable model they could make work, if they don’t fuck the infrastructure up, or allow cousin Billy to expose himself to female contestants on 3 different reality shows they’re producing.

This is straight out of Monsanto playbook going back decades. There’s a reason why a lot of countries have either passed laws legally shielding local farmers from accidental cross-pollination, or just banning GM seeds, not for any pseudoscience rational, but because of the way agro business uses natural cross pollination as a vector for lawfare and predatory business practices.

Uh…what… incorrect…?

This entire thread was spawned from someone posting a statistic relating to violent crime rates amongst different population groups.

Financial crimes, wage theft, jaywalking, or any other criminal act you can think of, that isn’t categorized as a “violent crime”, is irrelevant when the discussion is about one specific flawed violent crime statistic…

Of course it’s not specific, which is the inherent problem with these stats. Crimes that are not reported, cannot be factored into the crime rates.

But you rarely see this amount of skepticism when people point out how rapes and sexual assaults are also significantly underreported.

In both instances you have victim groups who less likely to go to the police and report the crimes.

I am not saying poor people are intrinsically more deviant, or criminal in nature. Many factors play into the increased crime rates of people in poverty, including but not limited to, desperation and over policing.

I also never said that undocumented migrants couldn’t have crime rates that trend below national averages. I said that the notion that their crime rates were half the national average was bogus, for reasons that you seem to acknowledge as well.

My point wasn’t to provide the framework for calculating the actual rates, or more approximate estimations, because frankly I don’t have that skill set. But then again, no ideas I laid out in these comments originated from me either. These are all well known problems with that bogus stat.

Either people think disinformation, or “fake news”, is bad, or they don’t. They can’t cry and scream about it when MAGA people use it, and then turn around and use it they when they feel it’s politically expedient.

Apparently I am, but maybe you can help!

Please, help educate me on when is it appropriate to advocate for genocide. When is calling for genocide just a rhetorical device, and when is like actually “bad”?

If I’m calling for genocide simply as a rhetorical device, can I also call the other people vermin as well? You know, for enhanced rhetorical value.

“…we need to rid this nation of your kind”

That was quick.

You managed to jump from accusing me of being anti-immigrant, to you yourself demanding a final solution, all in the same comment thread.

Yeah, I don’t disagree.

But again, that has nothing to do with what’s been discussed here.

For starters, this is about violent crime and it’s not about the inherent criminality of any group of people.

It’s about stats and why this particular statistic is critically flawed, and bogus.

What you’re talking about has exactly nothing to do what’s being discussed here…

Except for the possibility that the racist reputation of police in America may contribute to the reluctance of the undocumented persons to report when that they’ve been a victim of a crime…

Whew! For a split second you had me wondering whether or not you were completely full of shit, thanks for clearing that up.

So… You don’t disagree that the majority of the undocumented migrant population reside within communities that have large numbers of other undocumented persons.

And you don’t disagree that most perpetrators of crime victimize people within their same communities…

You just believe that undocumented persons report crimes to law enforcement at the same rates as legal residents and citizens…?

I take it you also believe the reported rates of rapes and sexual assaults to be accurate as well?

Well, if you do, let me be the first to tell you that rapes and sexual assaults are also underreported at statistically significant rates.