This is just adorable. Poor s!

The issue is that once they start heading down that path, they will probably start enshittifying the experience for non-paying users.

It requires tampermonkey, greasemonkey or any equivalent but this also works wonder to get a more compact look while fully utilizing the entire screen.

Can confirm lemmy.ml had a pretty unsavory look to it before the migration. It’s the reason I elected not to sign up there out of precaution because with what I was seeing, I worried about it getting defederated stat.

Came in to post this. I just got it today and it’s absolutely amazing. Turned Lemmy from a “I hope it gets better” to “I’m set now” sort of experience.

If there is one last glorious memory I’ll take away from reddit, I can live with it being this one.

I’ve seen SRS, neogaf and resetera follow that sort of route so I get where you’re coming from.

I’ve yet to interact a lot with beehaw so I reserve judgment on that front though. As you said, I think their defederation comes from a good place, having seen the same happen to a lot of mastodon instances.

I do know I certainly won’t be interested if beehaw turns into the same kind of abuse-ridden, toxic hellhole as the above, that’s for sure.

It very much felt something like this, yeah. Discovering new things and actually being hopeful about what you could do with all the news toys.

It was also filled with this home-made, self-hosted feeling that lemmy has to an extent. I think the most defining feature for me of the internet at that time is that if you had a website, people talked to you. They sent you email. They used your crappy online interaction thingamajig. They wanted to connect with all the benevolent innocence in the world.

I think the feeling that will never be replicated is that we didn’t quite know what could be possible or where the limits for the internet lied. MMOs were a sci-fi dream and being served small, 240p videos in less than an hour blew our mind. It was more about the incredible potential for users the network and technology held than anything it could precisely do in that moment.

Then broadband hit and the rest is history.

Thank you so much for this. Compact layout made my day!

Serious question though, if a server defederates, do the communities hosted on other servers just become completely un-moderated? This seems like a serious liability for the overall community.

I’m not the most savvy person there but it simply means to me that the defederated server cannot post or interact with the matching server. Moderation still works on both ends, enacted by their respective teams. This is akin to a server-wide “mute” button directed to content from another server.

I’m by no means the one who coined it. I just read it someplace else, but I find it fitting too!

A lot of people are missing the point of their defederation, which is a lack of proper moderation team and tools for the sudden scale they are exposed to as one of the most popular place of discussion with the rexxit with them harboring some of the most active communities around.

Their issue is mainly bad actors, trolls and harassers coming from those big instances and overwhelming them.

Defederation is the big-nuke symptom of a wider fediverse problem, a lack of moderation tools and readiness for scale, that I also saw happen a lot on Mastodon. I followed the infosec instance and they basically ended up having to defederate the biggest mastodon instances for a few days at a time when stuff like spam and cryptobro DMs ran rampant. I’ve received many of those so I can tell you that it’s pretty real.

Construing their decision as a desire to fracture the community is missing the actual reason they’ve tried to articulate. It’s a temporary stopgap for the 4 admins who just weren’t expecting the sort of volume and associated misbehaving problems they are suddenly getting.

Overall, Lemmy is getting through a pretty intense “shit just got real” moment. Please bear with it, people are working really hard at solving this from what I can see.

Reddit is filled with corporate apologists and very bitter people. Mods on pretty much every sub I was on are facing a lot of abuse from people who just don’t get how solidarity works.