Development time and user support?

These are two pretty obvious reasons. It takes time and time is a limited resource. Therefore, time should be spent on solving impactful problems. Lemmy account login is extremely low impact, it’s not a bad thing, it’s just not something that improves immich for a large portion of its user base.

Another thing is user support. Since the many instances are self-hosted for the most part, and they will go offline, and they will go away forever in some instances. Users asking for support for this login type and asking for additional features to make up for this baked in instability.

Essentially. Low impact work that may drive a higher volume of support efforts.

It’s the same reason some niche projects stop supporting Linux. Low user volume and disproportionately high “neediness” of those users.

Does it support multi-tenancy?

For instance, being a backup and media manager solution for multiple people in my family hosted on one server.

The same with a few friends that want to get out from under Google’s thumb.

I mean, yeah, probably all of these things.

Let me definitely has a considerably smaller cost to reward ratio.

The number of people that can be reached and influenced on Lemmy with bots is infinitesimally small compared to something like Reddit.

But I guarantee you that the bots do not stick out, LLM bots are pretty damn good at blending in these days. And the shitty bots have been sliding by on the Internet for over a decade now.

Lemmy and other federated services are in an unfortunate position where they have moderation and administrative tools that are on par with what would be expected 10-15 years ago for a large social media service (ie. Reddit). Which means we are almost entirely unprepared and incapable of handling malicious actors on Lemmy.

Not if the judge has been appointed by R.

No, he has dozens of scams going on constantly raking in millions. The more the merrier for him and his ilk.

It’s kind of insane.

Suckers never learn.

Yeah, and for every dozen hours spent on building a “shitty discord” that’s a dozen hours not spent building the game.

And then there’s the high friction. Now people need to sign up for your special website, sign up for your special chat, add another app to their phone if you even provide one…etc When 9/10 of those same people already have a Discord account and are already active on Discord.

You don’t appear to understand what friction means. Because using an established platform that the majority of your community already uses isn’t high friction…

It doesn’t matter what the platform is. You bring yourself to the platform your users use. It just so happens that at this point in time it is Discord and this wasn’t always the case and it won’t always be the case.

You keep talking about how you don’t want to join to find out information how you don’t want to chat about the game.

Okay. That’s fine, that’s your choice, Why are you trying to shove your choice down other people’s throat then, you don’t have to join, you don’t have to talk about the game. It’s not required.

Yep, it’s a practical choice that improves the quality of their work and their community engagement by promoting rapid feedback cycles.

BTW how’d you stumble upon the Indi game?

The thing that I suck at the most is advertised out what I’m making, and it’s hurt me, a lot…

1000000%

It is literally the worst forum platform in existence. For q&A and support, it’s effectively a black hole for information and not only that, it’s a black hole for effort since people will just ask the same bloody questions day in and day out as the information already on Discord becomes unavailable over time

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However, It becomes difficult when you use Discord as a place for your community to chat and to talk with and get feedback from highly engaged players or community members who have things to say about your game and want to talk with each other about the game. You could say that any old form will do here. However, you go to where your community is, you don’t make your community come to you. That only works if you are a bombshell of a title, otherwise, your bounce rate for community members joining and talking and engaging is going to be incredibly high which reduces the chances of your game becoming successful.

You’re talking about a place for suggestions and help which can be driven to something like discourse. Which is a platform specifically made for q&A. But it is not well suited for the type of interaction you would expect in a Discord server. It’s not providing the controls and integration that Discord provides, nor is it providing voice chat capabilities and cross interaction.

Discord as much as we all hate it. For the enshitification. is a well-established high population low friction platform for community engagement.

And one of the number one rules when it comes to community engagement is that you go to where your community has the least amount of friction. They don’t come to you.

If that was a community that preferentially used IRC then the developer should preferentially use IRC. Unfortunately, target gaming audiences preferentially use Discord and are already familiar with the platform. Anything else is adding friction that reduces community growth.

These are the facts of the matter. I’m not saying these in support of Discord. It’s kind of a shitty situation

Eh, it’s entirely logical.

Let me explain:

• The area that most indi developers underperform at is… Marketing. Many of them put their heart and soul into a game and then completely fail to gather a community or audience that is interested in such a game.
• so what is one of the easiest ways that a developer who has effectively no social media skills can gather a community of interested individuals to talk about provide feedback and announce changes to?
• most of the target audiences for most games are going to be on social media
• You expect to chat with your community and so do your users that care
• Discord is a well-established platform, with a large ecosystem and many integrations meant to target games
• The developer chooses Discord as it is effectively the best option for their situation and available resources

This makes perfect sense. I don’t see why you should be outraged about something of this sort.

That said:

If you don’t want to join the Discord, you don’t have to.

But I wasn’t facility. I was a student.

The dorm itself did not have internet and had no plans of running ethernet or providing internet to students.

I got internet through a wireless access point, positioned very carefully in window for a WISP. And they distributed that to rooms near me.

It’s old magic too and in a pinch it works reasonably well.

We use this as a networking option for an old dorm I was in which didn’t have ethernet and the concrete walls between rooms made Wi-Fi unusable.

Blocks of rooms were not separated on different circuits which made this possible

Most obtuse comment thus far.

It really depends how you define unfair, and the context surrounding it.

Is it unfair because there is corruption and misuse of tax dollars? In which case, yeah that’s a pretty big problem and people need to be removed and even go to jail.

Is it unfair because your municipality is about to go bankrupt? No not really because you don’t have a choice at that point. The failures that brought this about should probably result in the removal of people regardless.

Unfortunately, many municipalities in the US are going bankrupt largely because of corporate greed and the negligence of those counties from pushing back against it. Making this a pretty widespread problem as you have also noticed.

Things like:

• lower tax rates for large corporate entities who are affecting/clearing out local business.
• Money leaving the community because money spent at large corporate owned businesses does not cycle back through the local economy. Which reduces the viability of the local economy and local businesses which reduces municipal tax income, without reducing the municipal financial burden.
• Classic parking lot sprawl that often brings in low tax revenue and has extremely high municipality maintenance costs…etc)
• corporations reaping local natural resources but not having hefty taxes levied against them so that the community benefits from it
• …etc

Ultimately, this has its roots back in corporate greed and corporate consolidation.

This mfer not knowing how municipality finances work…

Fight back against corporate greed making every part of your life more expensive, including your cities and counties work and maintenance projects, which requires them to raise taxes to stay solvent.

This essentially sums up cutting education and ramping propaganda.

This… Doesn’t work at all here.

Generally, you’re long past this point.

Your link doesn’t address my assertion?

Better sex ed reduces teen births. I’m not refuting that or even referring to that.

I mean, kinda does. The grand majority of people are largely unfamiliar and uncomfortable with sex or sex-adjacent play as a casual thing.

Emphasis mine. It does prevent ^* us from having sex, just at a more abstract level. Only a subset of society is comfortable with sex and sex adjacent activities as a form of casual play.

^* Prevent, not stop. Words are important…