if a legit user gets flagged as toxic, there’s no other consequence besides the warning, that doesn’t prevent anything from being seen.

Yet

Wouldn’t say running in circles as much as ignoring the issues

When you ignore all the downsides and concerns everything looks amazing.

I wish I had your confidence in it being positive

Again it’s designed to empower downvoting to silence those against the hivemind

And here’s an example of a bigger troll who it surprise surprise doesn’t get flagged https://feddit.online/u/FiniteBanjo

Because it’s treated differently in piefed but still an example of how the software is designed to punish those who do not act the way the creator wants.

If the part after the but is ignored sure. But that part is also the issue so 🤷.

The point is the tools of piefed will amply the bad actors by allowing them to do the worst parts of reddit in the fediverse.

The point you are making with people going against the hivemind is related to people receiving a lot of downvotes, but doesn’t explain people giving a lot of downvotes.

Because it’s treated differently in piefed but still an example of how the software is designed to punish those who do not act the way the creator wants.

It just doesn’t seem like a way to actually address bad faith trolls or bad actors just make it easier to purge. Especially with instances that love to keep those types around, see world and shit just works.

There has been many times on lemmy and reddit where that is not the case, just saying what people didn’t like was enough. From games to politics people love to dogpile. Making a system that helps do that is asinine.

Blaze you do so much for the fediverse but defending this type of system is very disappointing to me.

Basically if someone goes against hive mind once or twice can cause getting removed or limited on their instance.

Except it appears designed for that not actually detection of the bad users. And does nothing when the toxic users just say on their own instance or comm. (like goat, pugjeasus and with recent db0 votes the feddit.org admin)

https://lemmy.world/comment/22309290

Piefed ties your voting habits and how often downvoted so it can flag you if either downvoted too much or down vote up and down sort of equally.

Basically if someone goes against hive mind once or twice can cause getting removed or limited on their instance.

https://join.piefed.social/2024/06/22/piefed-features-for-growing-healthy-communities/

Find people who have low karma

When someone is consistently getting downvoted it’s likely they are a problem. PieFed provides a list of accounts with low karma, sorted by lowest first. Clicking on their user name takes you to their profile which shows all their posts and comments in one place. Every profile has “Ban” and “Ban + Purge” buttons that have instance-wide effects and are only visible to admins.

The ‘Rep’ column is their reputation. As you can see, some people have been downvoted thousands of times. They’re not going to change their ways, are they?

The ‘Reports’ column is how often they’ve been reported, IP shows their IP address and ‘Source’ shows which website linked to PieFed when they initially registered. If an unfriendly forum starts sending floods of toxic people to your instance, spotting them is easy. (In the image above all the accounts are from other instances so we don’t know their IP address or Source). Find people who downvote too much

Once an account has made a few votes, an “attitude” is calculated each time they vote which is the percentage of up votes vs. down votes.

People who downvote more than upvote tend to be the ones who get in fights a lot and say snarky, inflammatory and negative things. If you were at a dinner party, would you want them around? By reviewing the list of people with bad attitudes you can make decisions about who you want to be involved in our communities.

All these accounts have been downvoting a lot (Attitude column) and receiving some downvotes (Rep column). Their profiles are worth a look and then making a decision about whether they’re bringing down the vibe or not.

But sadly do on piefed

Because at least on piefed you get punished if downvoted too much

Hell world wouldn’t even punish a mod for rule breaking behavior

Anyone who can make it this deep in the thread. Or do you think this is a private conversation on a public forum?

Bias on how piefed is set up by their own sign up page?

I’m only replying at this point for others as you don’t seem to read

So are just randomly replying

Because that makes it easier for them to accept it’s there if they can claim it is something else

So links to same page saying it’s features made to do social media credit scores and then piefed issues?

What are you trying to say with that?

By not making a system that helps continue that exact behavior with a system that pushes people for being downvoted that exact way or don’t interact with posts how the dev wants.

The ‘Rep’ column is their reputation. As you can see, some people have been downvoted thousands of times. They’re not going to change their ways, are they?

The functionality is exact opposite of what you want. It’s empowering mass downvoting to silence others because that’s how the system is designed.

Because piefed believes monitoring the “attitude” of an account and “repudiating” it are the temporary measures for this behavior.

Again it’s not that’s the guiding principle listed for how they want to have spaces and users behave.

And was your link to lemmy issues supposed to show something other than recent issues unrelated to the behavior?