I’ve been thinking too, that if I generate content I should post to both services, but mention the better one. Like “if you want no ads, I’m on peertube as well”. Naturally drive people there.

Fully agree. I think Slop is getting polluted (especially here on Lemmy) to anything that even remotely touches AI. We’ve had AI for decades. We’ve had LLMs now for a while. Slop is something relatively new. For me, Slop is low-quality bullshit that is thrown out into the void for clicks and likes, a cheap alternative when a better solution exists.

I recently was given an excel document I had to convert, with about 50 columns on it. I had to build a regular import. Now, I could spend a few hours typing that in manually as a C# class, or a few hours coding up some script to scrape the headers into the type, or I could utilize a tool that I have that will spit it out for me into a class. I don’t consider this slop, I consider this the grain of truth that all the tech bros fixate their grand embellishments around. AI does have usages. It’s not nearly what they think it is, but it is there.

Personally, I don’t care. It’s a tool. It’s the same as when drag and drop GUI editors came around. Some people think it’s the worst thing ever created and others see it as a tool that removes boilerplate. I think using it in a project or as a maintainer is a personal decision.

What is interesting is how we praise open source maintainers for building (let’s remember) free software for us to use, but then the community is extremely quick to demonize them. It’s very easy to criticize, but I don’t see anyone stepping up to fix the list of issues themselves by hand either, to fork it and become the sole maintainer moving forward.

Maintaining open source is a thankless job, and they do it for free. They do not owe anyone anything, and their morals are their own. What was probably a side project years ago is now an entire operation, what was fun is probably now work, and yeah, if I was faced with the same dilemmas, I’d probably be looking for tools to relieve some stress too.

No more Storage Full warnings.

Is that a challenge?

Personally I just throw Debian my servers. It’s a rock.

I feel you, a lot of people will shit on you saying how could you, but I get it. I worked in an area where the only “decent” coffee was Starbucks for years, and sometimes you just want something a bit nicer than drip. In rural areas especially Starbucks is sometimes the only option. Then you are in an office, you’re going a couple of times a week, back in the day you’d probably get a free drink every few weeks or so, it honestly was pretty nice.

Now, it’s full corporate, that soul is gone, and it’s shameless nickle and diming. I think that’s why I made this. It’s the ultimate non-rewards program I’ve seen. None of it feels like it is rewarding you for being loyal. It feels more like a sad dog begging for whatever scraps are left after dinner was finished. You have to give so much to get so so little in return, and for such a large company you would think they’d be thankful to the people who frequent them. Instead they view their most loyal customers as a source to squeeze, and it’s disgusting to me. For me, they are officially downgraded to “travel” status, meaning I’ll only be going there in airports and places I can’t find local coffee.

Be VERY careful, I hope you did a backup. I don’t know how you have these drives managed, I’m guessing you are missing the ntfs driver to read them. Fedora probably has a package you can easily install, on debian it’s called just ntfs I believe.

Sure sure, but what about 2,500?

Check out !espresso@infosec.pub if you want to really go deep into brewing your own

Completely feel you, their mochas, while not “good” in a good coffee sense, have a particular flavor that I do really enjoy that no one else gets right. That being said, they’re horrible and I try not to go whenever I can, and go to local coffee shops. Ironically I now treat them like McDonalds. I only eat it when I travel. A good chunk of places do not have anything except a starbucks, and most airports only have starbucks. So, that’s when I get it. They are relegated down to McDonald’s status.

Its all marketing bullshit to make people think they’re earning something, or their gaming the system. In reality it’s all carefully planned to extract the most value out of their most loyal customers.

Having traveled there myself, I’m so freaking jealous. It’s absolute insanity that us American’s have the gall to say we’re the “best country on earth” but can’t even move our citizens around efficiently. I’ve heard all of the excuses. It’s too expensive, we’re not close together, we’re too big, americans don’t like taking the train. All horseshit. Other larger countries have done it, others have changed their culture, it’s absolutely stupid that we haven’t done it.

It all boils down to one singular fact in my years of advocacy. Car/oil companies do not want Americans discovering that they are wasting their lives and money behind the wheel of cars, because they have never been as profitable as they are now.

Anything to avoid building reliable clean and functional public transit.

Seriously we already have a futuristic form of transportation that can move you from one end of the city to the other in a reliable way, that does not involve traffic or anything on the surface. It’s called the Subway. You build it once and it’s pretty much good forever.

I have seen so many techbros try to “solve transportation”, and every idea always fails in comparison to building a train line.

Go ahead, you can go use the “futuristic” hyperloop in Vegas right now. You wait 20 minutes to get into a car which takes 20 minutes to get about 6 blocks ahead.

We are dropping to a one car house. Our now single car is an EV, I scopt and take transit, and I can’t be more ready for when we don’t even need the one

Again. Not should exist. Will exist. I fundamentally believe they won’t shut up about it until something is done. “Nothing” is not an option.

If you take out the option for nothing, then this is really the next best.

Okay calling it a lie is a harsh term, and I thought we were coming to at least a mutual understanding of each other’s points.

I do not disagree with you, that it shouldn’t be them getting involved. However, what is happening is that they are getting involved whether we like it or not. This is the fundamental difference in our viewpoints. If you think there is still a chance to hold out, go for it, but I think there is no way to avoid it at this point.

I see it very clearly. That it’s going to happen whether we like it or not. I personally think if all the OSes just held out and said “No way we’re not doing anything” then the obvious response is that sites will need to require IDs for everything, and we lost even harder. It’s better to suggest a tech forward privacy based approach now rather than let them dictate that everyone should take IDs.

That’s my point of view. I know you disagree, and we’re not going to come to an agreement, so I don’t see the need to continue this thread.

For this:

These two statements are in conflict and cannot both be true.

“There is no section mentioning penalties for individuals entering false age information. You are completely free to submit whatever age you wish.”
“It’s literally just closing the giant loophole of “I’m totally over 21” that we all made fun of for years.”

They are not in conflict, because the onus is on the parents to set up a child’s account. So if the parent did their job, then the child can never click “I am over 21” because at the OS level it’s blocked. They would need their parent to bypass that again. For adults, on your device, you simply never set up a child’s account, and you don’t need to worry about it. So yes, I consider that closed. A child loses the ability to click “I’m over 21”. Adults if anything hopefully don’t have to click that anymore, but I’m guessing for safety they’ll still force us to tick the box.

And what if a website or app doesn’t check this or add a nudity flag for the device/browser to check? Do you think porn sites in other countries will care?

So far this isn’t for the web at all, but I see this as clearing up the grey areas. Maybe they don’t care, maybe they do. Maybe it puts more power on the browser to help stop it. If a website or app does not listen to it there are consequences for it, but seeing how it’s quite literally a boolean check it sounds pretty easy to be in compliance. That’s the monetary damages we saw above.

I don’t know man, I see this, which is a simple thing a parent can set on an account: are they a child or not. Or, the alternative, which is everyone has to upload their government ID to some third party site, have it stored for all of eternity, and collated and collected, just so they can access discord, or social media, or whatever. The thing is that I do not believe there exists governments right now who are willing to let any of it slide anymore, they are demanding that something be done. Nothing is no longer an option. If we have to choose one of the options, (and by not choosing it means they will choose for you), this seems like the safest most privacy focused option.

I hate lists in comments, but fine.

1. This is irrelevant, it doesn’t matter how you use your computer
2. They don’t specify it has to be the user’s exact birthdate. It can quite literally be anything the parent wants to put in there. In fact when you read the law, it says “Age brackets”. The birthdate will not even be exposed in the API, only what bracket the user is in.
3. Correct, which is why it has to be mandated.

• I supposed that’s on each distro to decide? It’s a mandate, they’re not defining payroll.
• I read the laws for both CA and CO, it doesn’t say, but it does say that above applications will listen to that and may block functionality if the account says they are underage. As for circumventing, I assume each distro will want to prevent that from being circumvented.

4. What possible legal consequences might there be?

Up to $2,500 per affected child for negligent violations
Up to $7,500 per affected child for intentional violations

How would the state know that a user in compliance with the law?

They don’t, there is no mandatory reporting, there is no “phone home” of compliance. It is only, and I mean only a boolean check in the OS, “Is the user a child or not”.

What are the consequences if a user or operating system is not in compliance?

There is no section mentioning penalties for individuals entering false age information. You are completely free to submit whatever age you wish. This is 100% for parents to create a childs account.

Is this data being recorded in a database?

No. This is the largest bit of misinformation about these bills. There is no place where a database is created. It is literally an OS level signal that says “Child is under X age”. A browser can check that signal, and if little Billie wants to see something adult related, the browser blocks it saying that they are under aged. It is still 100% opt in, there is no requirement for an OS to take an age, only that they must allow the option.

If they suspect you have a child using an “adult” account, does the state have the right to seize your computer?

NO. They have no idea! There is no tracking at all! Seriously. Read the law for yourself.

if a child uses an “adult” account to access “harmful” content and that somehow leads to damages, is there no ability to sue for those damages since the child was committing “fraud”?

NO. If the account is a default, normal adult account, all developers can trust that signal. “A developer that relies in good faith on a signal… is presumed to have accurately determined the user’s age and to be in compliance…”

What if an adult is logged in and a child uses the computer?

This is the only slightly ambiguous part, which CA at least knowledges is a gap, if there is a shared account. This law does not state anything about that, and only puts in place that a child should be able to create a child account. At this point the OS would say that the user is an adult, and would fire the signal that they are an adult, and from the other parts of the law there is no liability if the parent didn’t set it up as a child’s account.

Seriously. Please go read it yourself. I’ve been an open source advocate for a long time, and I’m a software engineer. Nothing in this law seems alarming to me. Annoying sure, but literally I can’t think of a better more privacy friendly way to do this. It is quite literally only saying “You must have a way to create a child’s account, so that the API is there for other apps to block access”. It’s literally just closing the giant loophole of “I’m totally over 21” that we all made fun of for years.

In fact what I really love is that it’s doing what we always wanted from the beginning. Put the onus on the parents. This quite literally puts 100% of the onus on them. Like as an app developer I can say If !os.isChild showPorn. It’s quite literally saying “Look, we’ve done as much as we can, you had one job to do as a parent and that was to set your child’s account as a child account, and you didn’t. That’s on you.” As an engineer myself, if all I have to do is check a flag to make sure kids don’t use my NSFW app, then that sounds like a win.

https://legiscan.com/CA/text/AB1043/id/3269704

Well great! Because no one is asking you to provide your identity. Both California and Colorado laws say that you only provide a birthdate (that you set) on a child’s account. So, don’t make a child’s account?

Your argument is literally the slippery slope argument, so maybe we can agree that the whole topic is blown out of proportion.

That’s actually my point though, that some sort of this is going to happen no matter what. If you start at the assumption that they’re not going to stop until they can verify that the children can’t access porn, then working backwards this is the best way to accomplish that because it’s privacy focused.

The option of refusing is not on the table. It’s not going to happen. There can be holdouts, but it’s happening whether you like it or not. The only real thing we can do is fight for a version which does handle our privacy, which this one does.