It’s been a pleasant disagreement :)

That’s the kind of disagreement that is best.

Edit: also, my apologies. When I saw this earlier, I was on my phone and fat-fingered the down vote. I corrected that. Not that votes matter, but this far down a thread it can seem like disrespect.

Dude. You know what I’m talking about, don’t pretend otherwise

So, all I have to do is pump my semen into enough women, get them knocked up, and have thirty votes? Awesome! I’ll be my own bloc!

No, no citizen whatsoever should be able to cast the votes of other citizens, period.

If the kid can’t get in the voting booth by themselves, cast their own vote without assistance, then they aren’t voting, someone else is.

In that regard, they already have representation by their parents’ votes. All it would achieve is giving parents outsized voting power.

Man, it’s a tough one.

In theory, nobody should be disenfranchised by age at all. But at what age would they be able to vote, as in understand what to do, how to do it, and do so without adult supervision?

Until they reach that point, it’s essentially their parents or guardians getting an extra vote.

And then you have to look at other things we limit minors on by virtue of not being able to make informed decisions. So, would we go with driving age, since that’s when we trust them with a ton of death machine? Drinking age? Age of consent for sex (which isn’t always 18)?

If we change it away from 18 to lower, showing that they have the full rights of any citizen, why don’t they get those other rights with enfranchisement? Why is someone able to vote like someone that has the ability to make an informed choice, but they can’t drink? Hell, that’s already a problem since 18 year olds can be sent to fight and die in the military, but can’t have a beer legally.

I would be fine with 16 being the age of majority for everything if the individual wanted it. You wanna step into adult life, with all the rights and responsibilities, I don’t have an objection to that at 16. I had too many patients that were married and working before 18 to pretend that it isn’t realistic for someone that age to step into adulthood. I don’t think it’s the best choice, but I wouldn’t fight it if the world decided that way.

I could definitely made an informed decision for voting at 16. I had access to alcohol, and was able to make the decision to not use it, same with tobacco. I had access to sex, and made the decision to make it safe sex. I was a decent driver, and didn’t have even a fender bender until I was 19, and I wasn’t the one that caused it then. All of the stuff that we limit to “adults”, I know I would have been fully capable of making informed and conscientious decision about any of them.

But I also knew other teenagers that were absolute morons that couldn’t be trusted not to jerk off in the school bathroom. I knew 16 yos that wrecked cars and put other people’s lives at risk in the process. So I’m okay with the age of majority being 18 too; some of those morons would just flip a coin for their vote, and the mock votes we’d have in school were laughable across the board.

Not everyone can make an informed and conscientious decision at 30, much less 18.

So I don’t really think it needs to change, but I agree with you that it sucks that it’s so arbitrary.

No worries :)

Usually a ball cap of some variety, I have a couple.

It was probably my favorite, a custom one a friend got me that has “Mrs Lovett’s meat pies” on it. Custom because my giant dome made the ones that were available from the show itself look ridiculous lol.

There’s also a pride hat, a pirate hat with “surrender the booty” stitched in small print above the back band, a random ebay find with Bacchus on it, and one that’s just plain black.

I’ve got a boonie hat that I use when it’s raining, and a couple of dressier ones that look nice when I have to/should wear a suit.

After my hairline started receding and I got my first sunburn, me and hats became friends lol.

HR isn’t the employees friend, ever.

But that’s where you start the paper trail. It’s really the safest bet

There’s a couple of ways to approach this idea. Literal and figurative.

Within the myth itself, the oldest version has the theft occurring after Zeus banned humanity from having access to fire because of fuckery with sacrifices (that was instigated by Prometheus). So, if taken is the myth is taken literally, it isn’t about whether or not humans could pick up fire that Zeus created via lightning, or other methods, it was about them not being allowed to. By Prometheus giving them fire, he gave them the means to make it themselves rather than it being something the gods owned exclusively.

While that still has the hole that it was basically trying to play games to bypass the command of Zeus rather than giving something humans could have tried to steal on their own, and ignores that fire is a phenomenon of physics and chemistry rather than only being granted by a divine force; it’s still the gist of that original myth as it existed when Hesiod set it down in writing.

Now, I think we all know that the myths weren’t literal at all. There was no Zeus, and lightning wasn’t the only source of fire for humans at all. There’s not much in the way of hard evidence of how humans first harnessed fire, whether it was from external sources like lightning, or lava; or if it was discovered as part of the flint knapping process (little sparks can fly under the right circumstances), or other options.

And it isn’t like the Greeks necessarily held every myth to be literal truth. They did have a degree of awareness of myth as symbolism.

And that’s where the figurative comes in.

If your interpret the myth as fire being symbolic of technology, of thought and philosophy, of shifting from hunter-gatherer culture to a more stable location that allows for development of technology faster, then what Prometheus stole wasn’t fire, it was the essence of divinity, the spark that made the gods other than human.

In that respect, you have to understand that Prometheus wasn’t just some rebellious underling. He was a Titan, descended from the oldest gods, just as Zeus was. He was a god of fire, and in some myths was the one that made humans, shaping us from clay. Which is obviously not unique to Greek mythology, but it sets up Prometheus as not only our creator, but our champion among the gods and titans.

Indeed, he’s credited in myth with bringing us more than fire. Art and science were credited to him as well.

Taken as a story about our place in the world, and how we exist as thinking beings, Prometheus is our drive to understand the world around us, and fire is our harnessing even the most primal of forces to our wit and will. It becomes a story of humanity being more than reactive, animalistic creatures; of us seeking to understand the world around us in a way that no other animal has been seen to attempt.

That fire is the fire of creation, of science, of poetry and dance and song.

And, it’s also possible to interpret the myth in other ways, but there’s a limit to how much is readable on a screen before the eyes and brain nope out, so I’ll leave it at that.

I will add that most libraries will have a copy of Bulfinch’s mythology. It isn’t necessarily a perfect source on Greek myths, but it does a good job at being as complete as possible at the time it was written, and doing so in accessible terms. With it being the default text for a very long time, it’s also ubiquitous. Even if your library doesn’t have a copy, there’s project Gutenberg, and you can find torrents or other file sharing sources for it, for free. Amazon usually has free versions of it available too, though I haven’t looked in a while.

Well, it’s just a company trying to hype their product, so definitely craze territory.

There is some good stuff in shrooms as others have already covered, and most of that will be present in a broth made from them. So it isn’t totally bullshit. But it also isn’t coffee in any way at all.

As far as making it into a power yourself, you likely wouldn’t get the same results since drying the damn things, then processing them is not exactly a learning curveless thing. Definitely doable, just takes some effort to get nailed. I used to do it to add flavor to stuff without having the actual pieces of mushroom present, since the texture is offputting to a decent number of people I have cooked for. Not worth the effort imo, but maybe if you’ve been recommended to have a specific mushroom by your doctor, it would be worth it.

Yeah, it’s now a term that people request they be referred to as by others, not just in group.

How do you determine when to call for proof or not?

It could have “during a discussion” at the end, with or without “online” as further clarification

I kinda assumed that it was either a language/translation issue, or trying to find the best way to express it due to some other difficulty.

Not that it matters really, but it does mean that it’s difficult to be certain we’re answering the right question

I appreciate it.

And I mostly agree, it isn’t really the same band. Can’t say I object to the name staying the same since it was never “Chester’s band, Linkin Park”. It was a group effort, and as much as I love Chester, he was only part of what made them what they were.

As it stands now, there’s only one member from the original linkin park lineup not involved, and it seems like he’s just done with music entirely, at least as a performer.

If Shinoda had just hired on an entire new group, and used the name, I’d be annoyed. Wouldn’t necessarily reject it, but wouldn’t be standing in line for the new album either.

And it isn’t like there isn’t plenty of bands that have moved forward with a band after losing a vocalist, while keeping the original name.

But, yeah, I appreciate you taking the time to respond a lot. Thanks :)

"we keep people imprisoned and torture them routinely

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9qgq919yl5o

Anyone that does not immediately renounce the religion is no longer eligible for benefit of the doubt, even if they were raised in the religion, even if they tether reject part of the beliefs.

Hate to break it to you, but if scientology is doing this level of horror to people in the name of their beliefs, it hasn’t made the news recently.

https://theconversation.com/violent-buddhist-extremists-are-targeting-muslims-in-sri-lanka-92951

Haven’t seen any bombings by scientology yet, though I wouldn’t be surprised.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-64658648

But, no true Christian would do such a thing.

If you’re arguing that scientology is somehow worse than any of that, I would say malarkey.

As nasty as scientology can get, as much as they need to be shut down, they aren’t even close you the kind of insanity of any of that.

I don’t care what word you want to apply to it. Cult, religion, idgaf. Call it whatever you want. But whatever you want to label things, I object just as much to literal terrorism and murder, no matter who does it.

You know who hasn’t done anything like any of this? Emily Armstrong. The worst thing she’s done is show up in court with a bunch of other brainwashed members of the group. That’s it.

If she is responsible for things she didn’t do, just because someone in the same organization did them, then everyone is responsible for the acts of the worst of their organization.

Seriously, how does nobody have anything in the way of proof she did anything illegal, dangerous, or even bad? Everyone is all whiny about her still being associated with scientology, like she’s some kind of ringleader instead of someone that’s stuck just as much because “we keep people imprisoned and torture them routinely and steal all our members income while we take their children from them”. If the cult is that bad, why is she expected to be the one to take a stand?

It’s bullshit. And that’s the point. I genuinely do not give a stinking shit what kind of semantics you want to fuck with. You do you, I’m done with that part of things because it has never been the point.

You got anything, any shred of proof that Emily Armstrong did any of the illegal acts that scientology has carried out? Because, again, I’ve gone looking, and there’s jack shit online. If anything, she’s just another victim of scientology via her parents. I get that the lady that masterson assaulted gets a pass for ranting at the wrong person. She gets that after what she went through. But nobody in this entire thread, nor in the YouTube comments, or on any of the social media platforms currently swamped by people that did not give a flying fuck about scientology two weeks ago have managed to dig up anything Armstrong has done other than sit in a courtroom.

That’s it. That’s her crime.

No, I’m saying that every religion is a cult. The only difference is whether or not people like them. They all engage I fuckery of the highest order. Catholicism is still top down cult, they just have numbers and history. A history of atrocities on a much greater scale than anything scientology has managed to achieve. It hasn’t even been fifty years that gay people were even considered anything but scum to the Catholic church. It hasn’t even been twenty since they were covering up child sexual abuse actively, and with knowledge it was going to keep happening if they didn’t stop it.

I’m saying that in the face of everything any given religion has done, none of them deserve a break for individuals unless all of them do.

I’m saying that none of the people except the victim of Masterson’s that made the public blame towards Armstrong were giving two shits about her. I haven’t seen anyone I’m this thread that’s said anything about scientology before this came along.

I’m saying that that’s bullshit. I’m saying that it’s a bunch of whiny little piss babies jumping into drama they didn’t give a fuck about two weeks ago.

I’m saying that a witch hunt on the basis of a cult or religion is bullshit when there’s no difference in them. Jainism, and maybe wicca have managed to not commit atrocities the last hundred years. And you’d likely find members of either of those that are bigger assholes than Armstrong has ever been

And, again, where were the complaints when she was fronting a different band? Nowhere. It’s a bunch of piss babies whining because it’s a bigger band, and that’s bullshit. Either she was a monster a month ago, or she wasn’t. If she was, then where were the attacks then?

It’s hypocrisy. It’s empty minded bullshit.

Now, to state it again, IDGAF about scientology. Tear it down, ban it, IDGAF if they’re all thrown in jail. Just don’t pretend they’re worse than any other big religious cult. And, unless we’re gong to go back thousands of years to some kind of ultra primitive version of animism, every fucking religion was a cult at some point. All the big ones operate as such, the monotheistic organized ones are just the worst about it.

The only reason it’s obvious is that there’s billions of people in earth. It’s hard to find anything that there isn’t a decent number of people that feel/experience the same thing.

Which is no biggie at all, I didn’t intend for it to come across snippy or anything.

Hell, the only reason I even mentioned that this isn’t best place is that once you get enough down votes, a post can get buried to anyone that isn’t sorting by new. Reduces the chances of interaction.

I’m trying to recall where on lemmy, and what the name is, for the “doesanyoneever” type of thing. I ran a couple of searches, but there’s too many ways it could have been created the run through them all but there is one, and I could have sworn it was on lemmy.world, but I’m not seeing it currently. But I could just be missing it, I dunno.

I mean, is this actually a question?

It really seems more like a rant followed with a DAE at the end to keep form.

There’s nothing to answer here.

Which is fine, but you picked the wrong C/ for it, which means you aren’t as likely to get favorable responses.

But, with that said, of course you’re not the only one. It’s a pretty common sentiment, particularly when people have some long term health issues (physical or mental). You go to enough group therapy sessions, you’d be hard pressed to not have any given group be a majority of members feeling the same. Same with many support groups.

It’s a thing.

Migrating changes the account completely. There’s a connection between the two, if the person chooses to do it that way, but they don’t federate as the same account.

So you’d have to ban the new account as well.

The down votes are about not having done due diligence.

Private investigators don’t break stalking laws because they don’t need to. They can do their jobs comfortably, from a distance, without any illegal acts at all.

For the question in the post itself, they don’t even need to have anything to do with the subject of their job. They’ll be looking into backgrounds, digging through records as their main method. Most of what any PI does is digging through records.

Even when they observe and record current activity of a person, there’s no need to violate stalking laws the get the job done, because those laws are written with pretty specific language. With the caveat that the exact wording is going to vary by jurisdiction, there’s no sustained harassment, or any direct contact at all during a normal PI job. Even photography or other records are made from a distance, and in places where the expectation of privacy doesn’t apply. More important, they don’t sustain that level of surveillance past the point where the case ends.

Now, that’s not saying that individual PIs don’t cross the line, they probably do, the same as paparazzi do, though probably far less often since their entire job is expensive to pay for, and they won’t be paid if they end up in trouble for breaking laws while doing something unnecessary.

In other words, movies and TV vastly misconstrue what the job is actually like.