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  • Science.

    Science has been able to get inside the heads and determine what animals are thinking? This is a breakthrough! We should now be able to communicate with these animals! Surely we can, right?

    My point is how you tried to argue reproduction based on instincts, so I brought another instinct-based trait.

    Ok, try not eating. Period. I bet instincts will kick in, and you’ll eat, and not starve.

    Urbanization and capitalism aren’t part of Nature.

    Nobody besides yourself even implied they are.

    I doubt it can be changed, especially due to how things are pivoting to technofascism in the world. I doubt it can be changed, especially due to how we humans are constantly endangering other species for living as “modern humans”.

    We’ve changed it myriad times. I provided two such examples.

    However, we humans have been long detached from natural means of living so transition wouldn’t be easy, we’re sort of cursed to “modernity”, so it’s complicated.

    Ah, so you think all humanity is illustrated only by western living, huh?


  • They do possess intelligence (especially crows and dolphins, not mentioned), but they don’t end up cursed by knowing the pointlessness of their own existences through a broader, cosmic lens. We do.

    Are you sure about this? How can you possibly know? How about Octopi? They are, almost certainly, as intelligent as we are, and have 8 brains interworking with each other. You have zero possibility to even guess how they view the world.

    If we were to talk about instincts, murdering to eat (hunting) is also pretty instinctive across species… Humans don’t often “murder to eat” because they often delegate it for others to do it, but with enough desperation (e.g. lack of food) a human can even eat other humans (see Chichijima incident)…

    Not sure your point? Tribes have always relied on varied tasks for members. Even higher primates do this.

    It’s also instinctive to live among the woods.

    No, it’s not. Its instinctive to seek shelter, water, food, and to reproduce. Instinctually, we are also social animals, requiring our tribe to survive.

    Maybe because we’re legally forbidden by other humans to move to a forest and live as our ancestors did, so we’re required to live “among society”, which in turn requires us to “pay” to “afford” food and shelter.

    So, that’s the root of the problem, and it’s something we can change. See: Seneca Nation, or the people of Chiapas.



  • So, I’ve gotta ask: Why don’t you just end the one life you can, since you hate all life? I mean, it sounds rather… illogical for you to type all that out, to tell other life what your thoughts are, since you hate all life anyways?

    Why not go be a hermit then? Get away from all other humans, and just exist by yourself?

    If you’re talking to people here, it means you enjoy your own life, and want to communicate your thoughts to other lives, so they can understand what you’re feelings are. Which means, at some level, you value life.


  • Problem is that this argument discards the selfhood from those being born.

    So, can they also choose to be born?

    Selfhood, if we’re being frank, doesn’t really “form” until at least a year or so into life. Just not enough cognitive ability yet.

    Do bears choose to be born? Microbes?

    Reproduction is an instinctive behavior, in all species. Humans as well.














  • Do people generally not have space to keep 7 days of groceries on hand?

    I mean, I get some folks are houseless which obvs, they can’t do this…

    But I am hard pressed to figure how someone can’t buy an extra canned good on a shopping trip? That’s literally 0.79. 2l bottles of soda aren’t things people.buy from time to time? Can’t harvest them from recycle buns?

    I think a lot of this is looking at the end result, and seeing it to be impossible, because they are trying to eat the elephant in one bit, rather than just one bite at a time…