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“Grassroots organization raises $500k for the establishment”

It doesn’t matter, my point stands, half the people in the US who buy new ICE cars could buy electric cars for the same of less money. My whole point is that the price has gone down a lot.

Again, I don’t know what “here” means, I’m telling you that the average new car in Germany (since you mentioned central Europe)costed more than 40k€, and that’s more than some seriously good electric cars like the BYD Dolphin.

You buy much cheaper cars than the average German then. Good for you to unironically know better than the average German and understand that beyond the 20-25k mark, you’re paying for stupid stuff and branding.

I can analyse this because I can compare studies and averages, my whole point was “no, electric cars aren’t even that expensive anymore”, not “cars are good and electric cars are always better and everyone should get one”.

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The average price of a new car in the USA is $47k. Comparing averages is more realistic than going to the lowest extreme example. My point is there exist electric cars that cost less than the average new car.

You’re making this up.

The average car in Germany costs above 40k€, that’s very similar to what an EV such as the BYD Dolphin can cost (from 35k€ upwards).

You don’t need to convince me that cars suck, I don’t own one as a matter of principle, but there’s no point in lying about the price of things

You are aware that these vehicles are sold outside China as well, right? I’m not making the point of “in china they’re cheap”, I’m making the point “they are cheap, maybe just not in your country”

Maybe in your country. Chinese electric cars are plenty cheap, many of them are cheaper than most ICE cars

You can absolutely reduce coal and gas without batteries. Hydro is a thing, nuclear also exists. Maybe it’s cheaper and more environmentally-friendly to disconnect some solar and some wind from the grid during excess peak production and keep the nuclear running, than having huge storage? Also you’re forgetting about the possibility for instant demand response, imagine things like AC units in summer or heaters in winter, where they could be turned on automatically during peak production to keep your house comfier for no cost.

I take it you disagree with the sanctions to Russia as well?

If by “sponsor” we include “perpetrator”

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