How much of a handicap are they willing to give themselves? I want to see all the details lol
taiwan should simulate unification
ITT: Tankies as far as the eye can see.
.worlders really need to expand their dialogue options, you see all of them very quickly
.world is basically a liberal bot farm at this point
Are you surprised that Marxists are on a thread on an instance with a lot of Marxists?
How anyone serious can side with taiwan, other than maybe some nazis, is beyond me.
either that or being very misinformed
US/UK/EU/AU/NZ Media:
“Taiwan is freedom and democracy.”
“China is authoritarian. (Shows footage of police retaliating against ultra-aggressive Hong Kong rioters or journalists doing reporting on the middle of a busy road or someone’s garden before being ushered away by traffic cops or security)”Done.
I get the propaganda but even some serious people seem to buy these images. They of course dont look to LA, for some pure democracy to compare to.
Well most of Taiwan is ready to unify, it’s mostly the ruling class propped up by the US opposed to it. With the issues they have created for Taiwanese semiconductor companies there are probably even former loyalists ready to turn tail and run.
It’s really the US - which can only dream of a war across the Pacific now - which wants a military confrontation. Mainland China will become too lucrative for Taiwan, Japan, and South Korea to ignore the more the US financial stranglehold starts to slip & China develops. Peaceful reunification is inevitable and war is merely possible now
Most of Taiwan? /doubt
Back that up with some proof and polls from neutral (non ccp or US) sources
Why do you keep talking about polls which I did not mention? Did South Korea and Japan get polled after the tariff debacle began, or was there an irreversible breaking of trust with the ruling class of the country that has done everything it can to maintain its position? I’m talking about the cultural and economic crosslinking that is taking place which is breaking the Pacific away from the US
I get why government opposing china would, what I dont get is regular people who are serious about this. Sure there is the propagandized herd, but even some smarter people I know seem to have weird sinophobic preconceptions about this. All europeans.
Taiwan has actually an actually good functioning democracy (unlike the US) and good civil liberties. They speak another language, have their own cultural heritage. If China invaded, they would loose their freedom of speech, China would impose on them Mandarin, like they do in Hong Kong, remove free media, introduce pro-CCP propaganda into children’s books, and introduce mass surveillance, just like they did in Hong Kong. Taiwanese enjoy their freedoms, they are quite rich by the global standards (and compared to China), so they wouldn’t benefit much from joining China or being forced into joining China
They speak another language, have their own cultural heritage.
The Wikipedia page for Taiwan alone would prove this to be utterly false. How can you speak with such authority when you know you’re talking out your ass?
The rest of you what you wrote isn’t much better. It’s just the standard anti-China & anti-communist Western propaganda talking points.
What do you think this is, Reddit?
Taiwan is not sovereign, the government is a us puppet state, which is armed by us in gross violation of the us one china policy. If us puppet is your view of democracy then I see why you have no issue. All since beginning KMT was so horribly undemocratic, that even the maoists seemed very moderate. Some of the most vile stuff ive ever read came from kmt white terror(even wiki has some). I hope that im wrong, but the germans seem to like former nazi friendly states. Kmt had numerous connections to fascists and nazis.
Taiwanese are rich thanks to massive investments from US. As for the comparison to mainland, cpc managed an unprecedented in history wealth creation, comparing small part of china which received massive foreign capital inflow seems almost unreasonable.
Many taiwanese have also mainland residence, talk about not benefiting. What exactly do you mean by pro cpc propaganda? I get it it sounds bad, but why is it ok to run political ads in west and not in east?
Hong Kong turned out totally fine after that went back to China right? So much freedom of speech and movement over there now.
Well what exactly did they lose? Not to say this is completely legal. The western backed protests did their part, make cpc look bad. But compared to LA for example shooting with rubber of foreign journalists, holding a protester down and repeatedly trampling him with a horse, unmarked ice illegaly detaining brown people. Common argument i read was that these illegals and aliens should not behave like this in MY country. Freedom of speech. Meh I agree western democracy is different.
Ah you’re still jerking off to those protestors burning people alive are you? Reddit during the heyday of the Hong Kong riots was probably your gig
The Euros on here are crazy, over on dbzero Germans are trying to convince me that it was good for their green revolution to destroy their nuclear power, destroy their largest source of fossil fuels, and that evil Russians destroyed their green industrial capacity and made them sanction China’s green industry
Yeah I second that my german friend seems by far most against china, hes quite educated so especially on taiwan he conceded the international law, but idk why german media is so biased on this.
No doubt that the elites don’t want reunification, but it seems like the population doesn’t want it either. I couldn’t find any poll that had more than 11-15% of people in favor of reunification.
Here I’ll ping you when I pull it up and make a full post about it, I really only do nude links through the share button and arguing on my phone lol. Polls are funny it really depends on what questions you ask people, and who you ask
Thanks!
Not cutting out the US doesn’t matter if it has nothing to offer other than Nancy Pelosi lol. I’ll have to look into polling more later but it’s not the whole basis of what I’m talking about, rather the lack of hostilities and the economic crosslinking with the mainland. There’s a reason the US is frantic to push for a war it can’t have, they can’t provide any alternative system long-term even if they’re included
That’s wild, I got the screenshot from the website itself & sat there archiving it smdh
