In my opinion, AI just feels like the logical next step for capitalist exploitation and destruction of culture. Generative AI is (in most cases) just a fancy way for cooperations to steal art on a scale, that hasn’t been possible before. And then they use AI to fill the internet with slop and misinformation and actual artists are getting fired from their jobs, because the company replaces them with an AI, that was trained on their original art. Because of these reasons and some others, it just feels wrong to me, to be using AI in such a manner, when this community should be about inclusion and kindness. Wouldn’t it be much cooler, if we commissioned an actual artist for the banner or find a nice existing artwork (where the licence fits, of course)? I would love to hear your thoughts!
A less than 24 hour old account, who’s entire comment history is this post which is pushing rehashed anti-AI nonsense in the guise of a concerned community member.
Ladies and gentleman, this is an excellent example of a concern troll:
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Concern_troll
With a little prep time and some VPNs the OP could have enough alts available to ensure that anyone arguing against them receives enough down votes to make the OP’s position seem reasonable.
If you examined the population of people who contributed down votes, you’d likely find a bunch of new or low comment history accounts who seem to exclusively vote in anti-AI threads.
Yeah because these comments are totally getting buried /s You have to make a first post at some point, and it’s gonna be something you’re passionate about.
Well, but you are not of an opposing ideology, your sub is called “ask Lemmy”, not “ask AI obsessed people”, so your definition doesn’t even make sense. I honestly don’t understand why you people insist on painting me in such a negative light, just because I am new. That is called bullying by the way. I didn’t even intend this thread to blow up in such a way, I guess a lot of people seem to care.
Notice how the community is also not called “ask Anti-AI obsessed people”. I’m sure that name is free, you may like to create such space, and stop trying to discriminate other people.
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post with a score of 181 currently … kinda difficult to argue that someone asking a question as politely as possible, and getting a lot of agreement that the question is worth asking, is simply trolling.
Well, of course everyone that disagrees with these people is a bot, lol
Someone in this thread is using bots to support an anti-ai statement. I don’t know if you or other person, that I don’t know. But I’m almost sure about bot usage.
Using bots to oppose AI is hilarious btw.
How would you know that?
Voting patters. screw up relations between votes and comments. Buch of votes coming in at particular points in time. Comments that were being upvoted for hours suddenly getting 30 downvotes at once. It’s pretty obvious.
I’ve been on the lookout as it’s not the first time this happen with anti-AI gang. I have been suspicious about bot usage by some user on this topics for some time. So I’ve been comparing post where people talk about AI and other posts and the voting patterns are all different.
This could as well be just old classic brigading. But with brigading you usually get more one line comments, when it’s just the votes it’s usually bots.
This you? You use bad faith arguments and ad hominem and you’ll get the same back.
Yes, who knew AI was such a hot button issue on social media? /s
It seems incredibly unlikely that you could be unaware of the the volatility of the topic while also parroting all of the anti-ai talking points. Your mask is slipping.
*whose
🤔, fair
FauxLiving: na na na! I don’t like their opinion so this must be nonsense! stupid silly forum users cannot even have real values like me…
on another note, I would be interested in how did you amass 1400 comments in mere 5 months!
Ah, I see we’re being mature now.
WhyJiffie: blah blah blah, I don’t have opinions of my own so I follow the downvoting winds to sling shit and ask dumb questions.
In Lemmy, if you type words into the text field and press the reply button it creates a comment. If you do it 2 times, then you have 2 comments. I’ll leave the rest of the exercise to the reader.
your condemning tone is really not needed. However it’s always somewhat suspicious when someone posts so many comments as if that was their day job, with easily half dozen detailed comments in an hour. in 5 months, your 1400 comments is basically 9 comments a day every day, on average.
I’ll just add “troll” to your label besides “AI apologist”.
It’s a condescending tone, actually.
I’m sorry if you think typing a few paragraphs is some herculean effort. I know it’s painful to have to step away from TikTok for so many seconds but keep at it and maybe one day you too can string more than two thoughts together in the same comment.
“You talk a lot” isn’t quite the burn you think it is but maybe if you keep rephrasing it a few more times it’ll land.
something I can agree with finally.
no no, you misunderstand me. but lets start with your assumption. I don’t use tiktok, and I condemn (now this is correct use I believe) its users. its even blocked at the home network, by me, mainly for 3rd party tracking.
its not the few paragraphs I was meaning. when I was looking at your comment history one of the latest comments was spanning the screen with several code examples (or were they commands? I don’t remember). and there were several similar length comments of yours posted within an hour.
my point is not that “you talk a lot”. but whether your opinions are actually yours.
Terminal commands, maybe some Python, I don’t remember all of my comments.
I’m a system administrator. I write technical articles for non-technical people and am primarily paid to sit around and keep things from exploding.
I have plenty of free time to get into slap fights on social media and I can probably type faster than I speak, so it isn’t a huge time investment to write a paragraph or two.
The insinuation that I’m a bot is a nice pivot, at least it’s more direct than a vague reference to my comment count. Though, you probably should have went with implying that I have no life or some other personal failing.
Implying that a bot can produce a large volume of coherent text will get you kicked out of the Luddite club…
Upvoting and downvoting patterns in this thread are weird. Votes come and go in blocks that happen at precise points.
I’m almost sure that some anti-AI guy is using bots to try to influence opinion, which os hilarious if you ask me.
Everyone understands that social media is the primary vector of disinformation, but if you ever try to point out this process in actual practice people act like you’re talking nonsense.
Here we have a post started by some random account less than a day old which is suddenly rocketed to the top of the community.
The OP lives in the thread full time for the entire day, not commenting anywhere else on Lemmy, and then disappears.
This person simultaneously knows all of the anti-AI arguments by rote and also seems clueless as to why anti-AI posts get a lot of traction.
The post is brigaded/botted, the vote:comment ratio is off, the downvoters are primarily accounts with no comment/post history (you can see upvotes and downvotes with moderation tools, they’re not private).
I would bet money that if a site admin were to look into the primary participants of this thread, you’d find that they’re all using VPNs. None of this on its own is suspicious, but taken all together it makes the thread very suspect.
I could be wrong, this isn’t exactly an easy thing to prove even when you have server admin tools. But I participate in the community quite heavily and am a moderator of a fairly populated instance (so I can see the server logs for our instance) and this post is giving off a lot of red flags.