In the advertising world, it’s not advertising, it’s a promotion
For example, if you go to the grocery store, there is a difference between hearing/seeing something that says, “bananas are on special today” vs “go buy [specific brand] of cereal today!”
Gotta call BS. I didn’t go anywhere and happen across a promotion, Amazon pushed this ad into my home, despite charging me a monthly fee not to do so. Why not go all the way and call it a public service announcement?
This is just like cold calls from local contracting companies claiming that they aren’t violating the “Do Not Call” list because they aren’t actually selling new windows, just informing the public of their new promotion.
You can call “bs” all you want, but you’re yelling at the messenger. If I understand the situation correctly, you’re using an Amazon service, so Amazon promoting Amazon stuff on that service might count as self-promotion (or whatever the term is) rather than advertisement. The difference being that they’re not being paid by somebody to promote their thing, and just calling out their own services/events.
Note that I’m also not supporting this, I don’t like it, but I’m also not surprised if that’s how that works, and that Amazon would be using it this way.
According to you an ad is not an ad when you or Amazon use the word “promotion”.
I’m curious, in your opinion when does something like this become an ad? Is it an ad if they they pop it up mid-show every hour?
No? How about every 10 minutes, is it an ad then?
Marketing departments attempt to bend reality and public opinion to benefit their company. Their efforts have obviously been effective with at least one commenter on Lemmy.
I’m curious, in your opinion when does something like this become an ad? Is it an ad if they they pop it up mid-show every hour?
No? How about every 10 minutes, is it an ad then?
If you’re getting paid to promote someone else’s shit, it’s an ad…
If you’re promoting something related to your own businss on your own propery and not getting paid by an external party, it’s probably not an ad…
When you use an app from big tech, you’re on their property. They can display whatever they want on their app. They can promise “ad-free” and break that promise if they want… or in this case, most people will agree it’s not an ad
Again, my explanation of our enshittified reality is not an endorsement… hence i choose to avoid big tech where i can and opt for free software.
I welcome you to do the same instead of demanding that amazon follow your view of the world
Marketing departments attempt to bend reality and public opinion to benefit their company. Their efforts have obviously been effective with at least one commenter on Lemmy.
lol, you’re making judgements on people trying to explain reality to you while you’re the one actively giving money to facists
They may have a specific corpo-speak word for it that they have codified into law with liberal applications of money… but in effect it is still advertising.
Arguing the etymology is like a child abuser arguing the difference between pedophilia and ephebophilia. At the end of the day, they’re still a child abuser, no matter how they define it.
You’re trying to excuse apologist language. Telling me to define the world by their terms, not how the world is. If you want to accept that their way is the right way, that’s on you. But when you tell others, that’s just spreading their propaganda.
Amazon: "Oh, we didn’t mean those ads. That’s clearly stated on page 112 of the user agreement under “Enshittification.”
In the advertising world, it’s not advertising, it’s a promotion
For example, if you go to the grocery store, there is a difference between hearing/seeing something that says, “bananas are on special today” vs “go buy [specific brand] of cereal today!”
still sucks though
Promotions are a form of advertising. Just because they have the excuse that it’s advertising on their own service doesn’t make it not advertising.
Gotta call BS. I didn’t go anywhere and happen across a promotion, Amazon pushed this ad into my home, despite charging me a monthly fee not to do so. Why not go all the way and call it a public service announcement?
This is just like cold calls from local contracting companies claiming that they aren’t violating the “Do Not Call” list because they aren’t actually selling new windows, just informing the public of their new promotion.
You can call “bs” all you want, but you’re yelling at the messenger. If I understand the situation correctly, you’re using an Amazon service, so Amazon promoting Amazon stuff on that service might count as self-promotion (or whatever the term is) rather than advertisement. The difference being that they’re not being paid by somebody to promote their thing, and just calling out their own services/events.
Note that I’m also not supporting this, I don’t like it, but I’m also not surprised if that’s how that works, and that Amazon would be using it this way.
According to you an ad is not an ad when you or Amazon use the word “promotion”.
I’m curious, in your opinion when does something like this become an ad? Is it an ad if they they pop it up mid-show every hour? No? How about every 10 minutes, is it an ad then?
Marketing departments attempt to bend reality and public opinion to benefit their company. Their efforts have obviously been effective with at least one commenter on Lemmy.
If you’re getting paid to promote someone else’s shit, it’s an ad…
If you’re promoting something related to your own businss on your own propery and not getting paid by an external party, it’s probably not an ad…
When you use an app from big tech, you’re on their property. They can display whatever they want on their app. They can promise “ad-free” and break that promise if they want… or in this case, most people will agree it’s not an ad
Again, my explanation of our enshittified reality is not an endorsement… hence i choose to avoid big tech where i can and opt for free software.
I welcome you to do the same instead of demanding that amazon follow your view of the world
lol, you’re making judgements on people trying to explain reality to you while you’re the one actively giving money to facists
Well folks, the brainwashing’s complete on this one.
They may have a specific corpo-speak word for it that they have codified into law with liberal applications of money… but in effect it is still advertising.
Arguing the etymology is like a child abuser arguing the difference between pedophilia and ephebophilia. At the end of the day, they’re still a child abuser, no matter how they define it.
Then cancel your amazon…
I’m just telling you how the world works and why what you’re seeing still counts as “ad-free”
i agree it sucks. So cancel your sucky service and don’t try to compare me to a child abuse apologist
You’re trying to excuse apologist language. Telling me to define the world by their terms, not how the world is. If you want to accept that their way is the right way, that’s on you. But when you tell others, that’s just spreading their propaganda.
Nah, they’re promoting their retail business on their streaming platform. Not the same thing. This is a scummy move from Amazon