everyone i dislike is a russian bot.
also: пошел нахуй путин
The fact the comments here are so contentious is just funny. I will block as is appropriate but so far have not had to do to much of it on the fediverse. Man it needs to be reciprical though so their training is limited.
Dear russian psyop soldier reading this, fuck you. Love, me.
Yeah it’s called Lemmy.ml, hexbear, lemmygrad.ml
Bro trust me I’ve been around since the start, it would be less weird if they WERE paid.
I never claimed they were paid ;-)
This poster right here is a good example on trying to polarize and create infighting.
The better example is having lived it. Nobody’s better at it than the .ml + Hexbear circlejerk itself. They’re the sole reason I’m on this server now.
.ml is moderated to be ideologically one sided. Pro-capitalism is literally not allowed and will deleted. Making a pro-west or anti-China or Russia comment is like a bat signal for .ml admins and users alike to dogpile on your comment.
It’s their right to moderate their instance how they see fit, but removing content on ideological grounds is going to result in people thinking what’s left is propaganda.
For the most part I like .ml users, I don’t care for the admin team and moderator decisions and that’s why I’m not on that instance. I could care less about the fact my instance is defederated from hexbear users or grad users. They do want to be polarizing and live in a propaganda bubble
Tankies have literally adopted the same rhetoric as MAGA. It could not be more obvious that leftist spaces are absolutely infested with this.
Genocide bad but fuck Ukraine is one thing that both alt left and alt right agree on, coincidentally
There is literally no one I know in the real world that feels that way. Pretty sure the alt left and alt right you mention both speak Russian as a first language.
Can you cite a source on this?
Remember every time we find Putin backed propaganda outside of Russia in the wild, it’s nearly always boosting predominantly conservative viewpoints versus anything else.
Outside of their borders they’re more interested in people fighting with each other than anything like coming together. Right wing politics is how they do that
Sorry, but this is wrong. They’re also actively sponsoring “left wing” propaganda, to further sow discord. Depending on which group you yourself belong to, it’s just easier to spot “the others”.
Your article doesn’t seem to mention Russia once.
Rumors and smears are part of free speech. To the extent that right-wing trolls and their audience are actual voters, it’s essentially just a coarse form of ordinary political speech.
The extent to which a foreign government acting coverly is either creating or artificially boosting such content is scandalous.
realistically speaking our own governments are way more involved with manipulating our media than the ‘foreigners’ as people love to fearmonger about
True enough. But even a tyrannical government at least has a presumable intent of working for the betterment of its country. (Albeit through wrongheaded and small-minded means )
A.foreijgn power, especially a historical adversary and bad actor, is instead presumably working to harm or diminish us.
No, they have the intent of working for themselves. That’s it. They don’t give a shit about the country and you should never presume the ruling class of your country has your country’s best interests in mind.
Your article doesn’t seem to mention Russia once.
Feel free to read any other article that does, if you somehow have managed to avoid learning about russian influence campaigns over the last decade.
Maybe someone wants you to think that Russian influence campaigns are a problem and so they feed you articles.
You presented it as proof that Russia is supporting misinformation on the left. To be that, it has to both include all three parts of the claim – that there is disinformation on the left, that Russia is covertly supporting disinformation, and that some of the disinformation on the left was supported by Russia.
If your wife sleeps around, and I engage in casual sex, it does not necessarily follow that I slept with your wife.
A common suspicion in America is that Vladimir Putin believes that Trump as POTUS is good for Russia, and that Putin interferes with US politics with a specific goal of helping Trump.
If you have some reporting that directly links Russia to left-wing disinformation I’d love to read it. But the BBC article I read after following your link didn’t have any such link.
This is the third time I post this paper in this thread: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/00207020241257635
There are plenty more. You spent more time writing your post than it takes to find them.
When you make a statement it’s your responsibility to provide proof because what if you’re talking out of your ass? How would we find any proof in that scenario when it literally wouldn’t exist? How would we know if you misinterpreted a source? How would we know we misinterpreted the correct source? What if we think what you’re saying is so stupid we don’t want to waste our time looking for proof? There are a lot of reasons the burden of proof shouldn’t fall on us, which means the burden of proof should fall on the person who made the statement. They know if what they said is factual and if it’s factual they know where they found this fact and thus it would be significantly less effort for them to find and present the source.
Primary sources tend to disagree
Here’s a study from 2019 about it that backs up my assertion that more is conservative https://academic.oup.com/joc/article/69/2/168/5425470
And of that propaganda being created, that conservative inclined people are most likely to fall for it: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/20563051231220330
There seem to be plenty of other papers that more or less reach those same conclusions with a good number of citations, but I can’t find anything really at all on Google Scholar concluding the opposite with a quick search, let alone something also credible.
The closest some papers come is saying that they try groups all over the political spectrum, as their goal is disunity ultimately, but they seemingly don’t really have any kind of continued success with misinforming those groups anywhere near as effectively. They more or less all end up concluding that most of the propaganda targets conservatives, because they’re the ones that fall for it.
Primary sources tend to agree
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/00207020241257635
Might it be that you’re commenting based on what you want to be true?
Both sides fall for it, just not equally.
Your assertion that more is conservative is a meaningless assertion in the context of this discussion.
More can be conservative on average but you don’t see an average view of the internet, you see your filter bubble, and that source backs up the original assertion that yes, Russia is targeting leftists too.
I think one of the problems with citing that first study as evidence Russian disinfo is targeted at conservatives more than liberals is that it only studied one case, and Russian disinformation campaigns tailor their disinfo to different demographics, often through brute force/trial and error. So it is quite possible that the particular case they studied happens to be tailored to (or more successfully resonated with) conservatives, while another specific case would have resonated with liberals more thus resulting in more liberal exposure by their metrics.
actively
15 April 2017
Oh you think they just stopped? Did you bother to verify for yourself?
Over 2 million tweets from these accounts were collected from 24 February 2021 to 31 January 2023
Russian influence operations are weaponizing Canada’s far right and the far left
Absolutely and utterly false. They try and promote fighting, anger, and distrust of government to everyone.
They target leftists with things that will upset them, make them angry at the right and the government and other leftists and sow further discord and polarization.
Less extreme Leftists generally aren’t nearly as likely to be control freaks as the right (although there are always exceptions), so getting them (as a group) angry enough to fight takes much more effort than it does the right.
Leftist movements are literally known for infighting and falling apart, it’s the subject of countless memes.
The right is already doing that by themselves.
The whole world is not America.
Only if you dont recognize places like Canada as the vassals they are!
Lol what an embarrassing propaganda unit that group is.
Russia is clearly to blame for the people you don’t like online
yeah lets pretend that propaganda does not exist I wonder who would want that
“I have to admit, I’m always so impressed by Soviet propaganda. You really know how to get people worked up,” the CIA agent says.
“Thank you,” the KGB agent says. “We do our best but truly, it’s nothing compared to American propaganda. Your people believe everything your state media tells them.”
The CIA agent drops his drink in shock and disgust. “Thank you friend, but you must be confused… There’s no propaganda in America.”
It’s not that I don’t like you, but it’s just weird.
Found the Russian.
