Is it an affectation that they’re trained to deploy? (If so, why?) Or is it just a natural thing that happens in the very specific circumstance of being a politician on the campaign trail, and that’s why no one else seems to do it?

I don’t think I’ve seen it in any other context 🤔

Cheers!

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    You got me thinking. Pretty sure I do this when addressing groups, like teaching a class in the workplace. Maybe I finger point in place of the fishing rod? Next time I hold a talk, I’m going to record it.

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      I’ve heard that before too but being an old bastard, I’m pretty certain Clinton didn’t do it until after he was debating Bob Dole. Bob Dole used this gesture because he held a pen during debates. And he held a pen in his non-dominant hand because he had an injury in WWII and the way his hand curled made him look weak.

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    They all go to Ivy League colleges, and they all take the same public speaking classes.

    It’s a big club, but we’re not in it.

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        No the real answer is that literally nearly every possible configuration of your hands and movement is offensive and rude to some culture, person or religion.

        It’s fucking damn near impossible to find ANY that are actually safe.

        This has been a problem of public speaking for longer then America has been a country, and longer then the ivy leagues have been a thing.

        Public speaking hand gestures go back literally hundreds of years.

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          Okay but the reason they all do it today is because they went to the same rich people colleges and courses. The reason those courses teach these things may have historical background, but that’s not what we’re referring to here.

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    Public speaking is a performance and like any performance some people are good at it and some become good at it and some aren’t really good at it.

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    It’s a wand. They are actually enchanting you, the first spell always makes the wand invisible. That’s why you never see it.

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    “People who are more emotive with their gestures than me must be fake”

    “People who are less emotive with their gestures than me are robotic lol”

    Most people hold both of those views but have wildly different levels of emotiveness… The result? Posts like this

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              I just recently got a PZ2 driver from Vessel for my Honda. It was remarkable how nice it was to use compared to a Phillips screw and driver. I felt so much torque could be applied while the grip stayed rock solid.

              Also learned PZ screws are often used in cabinetry, and lo and behold, all my kitchen cabinet do in fact have that tell-tale X mark to indicate they are Pozidrive screws.

              I’ve still not had the opportunity to use a square drive Roberston screw, but would still like to use them for something one day.

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    It’s more of a public speaker thing than just a politician thing, but… Well, politicians are all public speakers, so it makes sense that that’s the context you’ve seen it in.

    It’s literally a practiced gesture - public speaking makes use of some gestures that telegraph well to crowds, but seem unusual otherwise. IIRC, that fishing rod grip is an alternative to gesturing with a fist - it looks less aggressive, but gets the point across.

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    their fishing rods are invisible for you? including the hook and line? that must be rough. how do you avoid getting caught when you can’t even see them?