Because the rule of law is, that if you commit crime x you get punishment y. Lowering salary is not a regular punishment. If he would be fined with paying a fine the amount of his salary that would be ok with me. I’m not saying this man doesn’t deserve punishment. But if his punishment was torture i’d also call that unfair.
Rule of Law means equal punishment for equal crimes regardless of the person committing them, so he should get the same punishment as someone who doesn’t work at ICE.
As far as I can tell he didn’t break a law, it’s just a conflict of interest to have a racist prosecuting immigrants. So cutting his pay to force him out of the position was all that could be done by the people trying to remove him from that role. But you feel that isn’t fair.
If you don’t break a law you shouldn’t be punished by the office that is about whether laws were followed or not. I know that sounds crazy. He could be punished by his employer, fine. He could be punished by an angry mob, fine. But if this guy gets punished while not breaking the law, you can bet some other people who didn’t break the law will still get punished. For me considering something legally fair has nothing to do with what he deserves. I don’t think we’ll come to agree on that.
If you’re at work and you do something that would get you fired (which isn’t against the law) you should be fired. Why defend a racist in this scenario?
I’m not defending him, that’s the result of me arguing the system should be fair. If his employer would fire him, i would be silent. Politicians are not employers. Let’s look at it from another perspective; imagine a colleague of this racist have an x account where he tells people to come to protests about climate change, do you think a politician should have something to say about his salary too?
The position of being a racist. That’s what’s being discussed. Racism is not a crime so it’s an absolutely bizarre position to say that for some arbitrary reason, only law should be able to punish him for being a racist.
My employer can dock my pay or fire me for being a racist. Being a racist is not a protected characteristic. One has to wonder what the hell your point here would be.
Why do you feel it is unfair for his salary to be lowered?
Because the rule of law is, that if you commit crime x you get punishment y. Lowering salary is not a regular punishment. If he would be fined with paying a fine the amount of his salary that would be ok with me. I’m not saying this man doesn’t deserve punishment. But if his punishment was torture i’d also call that unfair.
Rule of Law means equal punishment for equal crimes regardless of the person committing them, so he should get the same punishment as someone who doesn’t work at ICE.
As far as I can tell he didn’t break a law, it’s just a conflict of interest to have a racist prosecuting immigrants. So cutting his pay to force him out of the position was all that could be done by the people trying to remove him from that role. But you feel that isn’t fair.
If you don’t break a law you shouldn’t be punished by the office that is about whether laws were followed or not. I know that sounds crazy. He could be punished by his employer, fine. He could be punished by an angry mob, fine. But if this guy gets punished while not breaking the law, you can bet some other people who didn’t break the law will still get punished. For me considering something legally fair has nothing to do with what he deserves. I don’t think we’ll come to agree on that.
If you’re at work and you do something that would get you fired (which isn’t against the law) you should be fired. Why defend a racist in this scenario?
I’m not defending him, that’s the result of me arguing the system should be fair. If his employer would fire him, i would be silent. Politicians are not employers. Let’s look at it from another perspective; imagine a colleague of this racist have an x account where he tells people to come to protests about climate change, do you think a politician should have something to say about his salary too?
So weird. And yes, you’re defending him.
I’m not. I’m defending his position. It has nothing to do with the rotten apple himself.
The position of being a racist. That’s what’s being discussed. Racism is not a crime so it’s an absolutely bizarre position to say that for some arbitrary reason, only law should be able to punish him for being a racist.
My employer can dock my pay or fire me for being a racist. Being a racist is not a protected characteristic. One has to wonder what the hell your point here would be.