Chinese propaganda is rampant on the fediverse. We need to discuss ways to combat this. One group- memes or something is wholly controlled by Chinese state actors. What do you think?
Chinese propaganda is rampant on the fediverse. We need to discuss ways to combat this. One group- memes or something is wholly controlled by Chinese state actors. What do you think?
The difference is that I don’t get banned/censored on western instances for criticizing Trump or US military interventions.
criticizing trump or us military interventions is pretty much all i do on ml, grad, hexbear
i eventually leave or get banned from the anarcho lib comms for doing that.
Well sure you can criticize Trump there. But try criticizing the CCCP, China, or Russia.
I engage regularly there in precisely those discussions.
we have reservations about, and criticize them all the time.
what i don’t really see being tolerated is insistent propaganda talking points or trolling, and even then most will talk to you if you are reasonable.
Insistent propaganda talking points and trolling are tolerated if they are from the Russian or China/CCP perspective. Honestly that’s about all there is on their news or politics discussions.
communists will mostly discuss communism and related
Well that would be all well and good if you were discussing communism. But you are simping for authoritarian regimes that are not at all communist such as Russia. There’s a word for that, it’s “tankies”.
russia is not communist! genius geopolitical analysis right there, you are correct. beyond the strawmen, you simp for the us empire. there’s also a word for that, it’s “fascists”.
You can criticize them as long as you aren’t doing so from a liberal, anti-communist perspective. The genuine flaws of existing socialism are better analyzed by those that actually study socialism and socialist countries.
Ive been banned for criticzing the PRC explictly from a socialist perspective.
You were temp-banned, for dogmatically repeating debunked claims pushed by liberals, in the face of evidence to the contrary. You appear to be free to comment there.
Didnt know it was temp. Thank you
One was more despite the evidence of clear worker rights violations that was argued was fine because the state is “the workers”. The second I got called to provide evidence (which sure no probs there) but then silenced lmao. Super frustrating.
What you called “clear worker rights violations,” was just the fact that unions are required to be a part of the All-China Federation of Trade Unions, and aren’t allowed to be independent from that federation. This isn’t a violation of worker rights, though, as the only purpose rogue unions would serve is undermining the socialist system, and would be vulnerable to foreign backing (such as from the US Empire).
The socialist state is already run by the working classes, I recommend Roland Boer’s Socialism in Power: On the Theory and History of Socialist Governance to get a better idea of how and why socialist countries hold the structures they do. Roland Boer also has a good book called Socialism with Chinese Characteristics: A Guide for Foreigners, which is more specifically about the PRC and goes beyond the structures of governance to the more broad system of socialism in China.
Regarding your participation in MeanwhileOnGrad, you should know that EmoPunker cut off the final replies, where they called defenders of Pol Pot “genuine socialists.” These are the kinds of posts on that comm, they selectively remove context that makes themselves look worse, deliberately misframe reasonable comments, and the comm itself is run by a zionist. This kind of anti-communist bar is a gathering spot for genuine fascists, but it seems you’re fine with participating there.
I’m curious if you have any good video essays, I really enjoy learning while doing things, which is much more difficult with reading, though I have started Socialism With Chinese Characteristics and it is interesting!
Fair point those workers trying to organize against unfair labor practices would undermine the state. The state was surely handling super well already actually. /s
Thank you for the reads though i will check those out even if we disagree on this so fat
I can and do
You don’t get banned on hex, grad, or ml for it either, either. People should really check the mod logs a few times daily.
Okay… From the last couple days.
Removed Comment He’s also either blackmailed or employed by china (multiple visits including his honeymoon, where he spent the night not with his wife but in the room with a number of school kids that he also brought with him… On his honeymoon) by NihilsineNefas @slrpnk.net reason: Misinformation
mod Removed Comment There are lots of countries, including all the western countries where fewer people answered affirmatively to that question, where people are far more free to express their opinions than in China, though. The most obvious reason being that the majority of the world’s countries do not have a Great Firewall. This is what shows that there is a bias in the Chinese answers – or possibly a bias the other way in the western ones, but either way it means the results are not meaningfully comparable. edit: > What’s happening is that working class speech is relatively free, while capitalist and corporate speech is not. That’s why the vast majority say they have freedom of speech, while we know the state censors private, capitalist speech. “I don’t want to work the 996 work week” is the epitome of working class speech, whereas supporting it is corporate speech. China chose to censor it. by turdas @suppo.fi reason: misinformation
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mod Banned realitista @lemm.ee from the community Technology reason: Rule 1 expires: 7 months ago
mod Removed Comment More like someone who lives in a country that survived communism and the oppression that it brings and who would never go back. Why don’t you guys move to China or North Korea (or inexplicably Russia which you also brigade for). Try living in the utopias you brigade for? by realitista @lemm.ee reason: Rule 1
mod Removed Comment You should pop on over to North Korea and tell us how great it is there. by realitista @lemm.ee reason: Rule 1
mod Removed Comment .ml is leaking again. by realitista @lemm.ee reason: Rule 2
mod Removed Post Trump wants green card applicants legally in US to hand over social media profiles reason: Duplicate
mod Locked Post Trump wants green card applicants legally in US to hand over social media profiles
mod Removed Post Elon Musk is named after a character in a book written by a Nazi, Werner Von Braun reason: Video link
mod Locked Post Elon Musk is named after a character in a book written by a Nazi, Werner Von Braun
mod Removed Post Donald Trump said on Thursday the survival of Ukraine is important to the United States, a shift in tone days before the House votes on a $61 billion aid package for Ukraine reason: Twitter links not allowed, articles only.
mod Removed Comment That’s a false equivalence. Every country is imperialist if you go back far enough. My concern is about today’s political and security situation, not that of 200+ years ago. by realitista @lemm.ee reason: Rule 1
I’ve gotten banned and censored from communities there for saying that Ukraine should fight back against Russia.
Unfortunately for you, the modlog is public
Yeah so check it.
You were temp banned, usually those are for a few days for the person to cool down. The removed comment was part of a chain advocating for the collective punishment of russian civilians
You conveniently missed these:
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mod Banned realitista @lemm.ee from the community Technology reason: Rule 1 expires: 7 months ago
mod Removed Comment More like someone who lives in a country that survived communism and the oppression that it brings and who would never go back. Why don’t you guys move to China or North Korea (or inexplicably Russia which you also brigade for). Try living in the utopias you brigade for? by realitista @lemm.ee reason: Rule 1
mod Removed Comment You should pop on over to North Korea and tell us how great it is there. by realitista @lemm.ee reason: Rule 1
mod Removed Comment .ml is leaking again. by realitista @lemm.ee reason: Rule 2
mod Removed Post Elon Musk is named after a character in a book written by a Nazi, Werner Von Braun reason: Video link
mod Locked Post Elon Musk is named after a character in a book written by a Nazi, Werner Von Braun
mod Removed Comment That’s a false equivalence. Every country is imperialist if you go back far enough. My concern is about today’s political and security situation, not that of 200+ years ago. by realitista @lemm.ee reason: Rule 1
you clearly didn’t want to be there and were making it everyone else’s problem so I don’t see what’s wrong with banning you
I can’t confirm, but the message makes me think it’s because the community doesn’t allow video links as posts
Elon Musk is a nazi, I don’t think anyone disagrees, but it was because the post directly linked to a video rather than an article that it was likely removed.
You were minimizing past genocides of indigenous people simply because those have already been completed. You deserved the ban, and it was temporary.
All I see here is hurt feelings for rules enforcement
I really couldn’t care less. If they want to mod someone for criticizing authoritarian regimes, there’s no point in being there. You can’t say I didn’t try.
Where did I say civilians? That’s just the pretext they used to silence any words against Russia.
In the linked chain, repeatedly.
It’s amazing how many don’t see people as civilians simply because live in the wrong spot
That is untrue. I never said it. And for the record I only believe in hitting military targets and those of politicians and military officials involved in the war.
Also I think you are cherry picking. They have censored me more times than that. Maybe it was on my now defunct lemm.ee account.
What do you think people need to be punished implies?
Asking as have seen way too many say it totally only means the bad ones especially when talking about areas they believe everyone in the area are fair game
I didn’t use those words. Stop putting words in my mouth. If you can’t make the case with the words I actually said, you can’t make the case.
I mean taking out oil facilities, energy facilities, government facilities, and homes of politicians and military leaders who support the war. But in St. Petersburg and Moscow.
That’s a US military intervention.