I’m choosing devices based on how good they work with zha and HA and usually have to browse a bit before settling for something. If they manage to implement this properly, I’m all here for it.
Maybe they should talk to the zigbee device compatibility repository people (or maybe they already have).
What? You are here for integrating all electronics into some internet connected spying machine to record everything we do and send it to data brokers/ peter thiel, bezos’ house?
“Integrating” your tv, your thermostat, your refrigerator, toaster, oven, microwave, etc., into a subscription model in time at that. You will be paying money or forced to watch ads for using your own purchased electronics that were owned unreservedly in full in all generations prior, but now you are in effect just renting their operating system of the device, and criminally forbidden from changing/editing it. Hackers, the government, business groups, other organized interests can brick all your appliances at any moment, or spy on everyone in the vicinity.
The people I’ve spoken with are all against these so called smart devices, the purveyors of which are removed from consequence as long as they share/sell the information to the government as well, not the least removed from consequence for flooding social media with influence operations, mechanized, now with ai chatbots new models coming soon, to drown out real people, give them a false impression of how the public feels, instill a hopelessness, and sell things just like this.
Ignorant of what they are doing acceding to the oligarchy in accepting, paying for the spyware, giving a mass of information to those interests and by extension the government, foreign governments, hackers, organized interests, ect, that previous oligarchies and tyrants couldn’t dream of,
That’s a whole lotta words to say “I have no fucking idea what Home Assistant is, but have strong preconceived feelings about it.”
Please get a grip of what the post is instead of rambling such nonsense at the sight of some topic that’s only vaguely related to what you wrote.
Condemning owning “smart devices” is not half baked, it’s common sense and you trusting you can keep them from spying on you is naive, and as I told another person, you should get checked for taxoplasmosis, which affects the fear center in the brain and could be widespread. I’m serious about that too.
Condemning bullshit “smart” stuff and cloud independence is why people are using home assistant. But if you just want to rant and don’t care about the topic instead of learning what’s discussed here, I’ll not reply any further.
My point is not to buy internet connected devices that have no business being internet capable in the first place.
Then that there are vulnerabilities in the security that can be exploited even when you think you are safe. It’s great to minimize the vulnerabilities, not as great as not enshitifying those appliances in the first place.
Also on this forum you should anticipate that attitude and address it in the post.
Home Assistant users are huge on devices with full local control (no internet connection required). Yes, HA works with cloud-connected devices too, but HA itself is just a platform for connecting all your devices together.
Most users here probably agree with you about avoiding internet connected devices, but your condemnation of HA makes it sound like you have no idea what HA is.
Well obviously I did have no idea what home assistant was. On this forum that should be expected and answered in the post itself however. Obviously you are going to get that, along with people that skip it entirely because of it.
You mean the homeassistant community? For Home Assistant users? I think it’s taken for granted here that people know what HA is, and that doesn’t seem unreasonable. I wouldn’t expect every post in /c/android to explain what Android is.
Yes, this was obvious, but it didn’t keep you from ranting as if you did.
If you want to call ranting making valid points not addressed in the post. There is no reason to have internet connected everything, you cannot trust that they aren’t exporting your data even with home assistant. You should address that in your post or expect such commentary.
ZigBee devices are not internet connected
My devices aren’t Internet connected at all. You could just have asked instead of going off on it.
You clearly have no idea that not all of these smart devices require an internet connection and apparently you have no idea how a home assistant lets you control these things all locally with no internet connection whatsoever.
Do you like, know, what Home Assistent is? What?
@bluesheep
I must admit that this is by far the most extensive but really, really convincing way to say: „I have no clue what Homeassistant is“ that I have seen so far.
It’s genuinely amazing. I’d think they were trolling if their others comments in this thread weren’t so schizo-coded
I know smart devices spy on us, collect our data, and transmit it to data brokers, even when they say they don’t. Even if your home assistant didn’t share the information, it would be garnered by the government and or data brokers. That anonymized information is not, by combining sets of data they can identify everyone involved, and so forth.
Why do you need a toaster that can be controlled to the internet, a washing machine, a dishwasher? Thermostat you could argue could be helpful, although that gives hackers an ability to change your temperature when you are away. There is no good reason for any of these devices to be collecting this information on us, even if you don’t see the danger in it on it’s face.
Like, one of the primary points of home assistant is making it so more devices aren’t connected to the internet. It doesn’t anonymize the data, it makes it so you can fully locally control a bunch of products (eg, I have tons of products blocked at my firewall from sending or receiving data from WAN; the only way for a hacker to change my thermostat is to be on my LAN, they literally can’t do it remotely).
Not sure if you’re an LLM or just enjoy entirely missing the point.
I’m not sure you don’t have taxoplasmosis, a brain parasite all mammals can harbour, passed between cats and rodents, the rodents lose their fear of cats as it affects their fear center. Up to 30% of the population could have it, it explains a lot.
That is a very, very extensive “I have no clue what I’m talking about in this subject”
Maybe take 10 minutes to educate yourself before opening your mouth.