Please provide more detail than “Trump is a twat” and “epstein distraction” cos that’s fucking obvious

  • mj_marathon@programming.dev
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    5 hours ago

    There’s also nothing to indicate that Iran would completely reopen the strait even if the US up and fucked off. What incentive do they have at this point to return to the old status quo?

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      4 hours ago

      What incentive do they have at this point to return to the old status quo?

      If the US fucks off, then Iran is left in a powerful negotiation position. They could use this incident to help normalize relations with other gulf states by pointing out how the US and Israel started the fight, then left them all high and dry. They could make non-agression and safe passage deals with the gulf states as well as exhert real pressure against the normalization of relations with Israel.

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          3 hours ago

          The US sunk 16 of their mine laying ships and has been having to shoot down mine laying drones. No one really going through so no real idea about how many if any mines have gotten through.

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            Is that verified and were the ships actually in operation? All I saw was “inactive mine-laying ships”

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              I do believe we sank them before they were active along with or near in time to the first decapitation strike. Personally no idea about whether they have more.

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      Long term it’s better for Iran if stuff keeps flowing through and nobody moves away or pipelines around the Strait.

      Before that was just economically infeasible, but now it’s being shown as a massive vulnerability and there’s no going back.

      Unless Iran can make it look so expensive by comparison again.