Please provide more detail than “Trump is a twat” and “epstein distraction” cos that’s fucking obvious

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    So it’s very hard to illustrate all this in an online forum thread… So I’m gonna try and sort of simplify…

    First and foremost, know that there are no good guys in any part of this. Everyone involved is beyond fucked up and everyone involved is Doing this for all the wrong reasons.

    For a very long timeIsrael has been very concerned that Iran will develop nuclear weapons, as they should be.

    Iran has been executing a proxy war against Israel for 50 years.

    Part of that proxy war involves a number of different organizations, one of which is basically in control of Palestine.

    The Obama administration negotiated a treaty with Iran that lifted a number of sanctions if they allowed international inspectors to prevent them from enriching uranium, which is a key step in creating nuclear weapons.

    The Trump administration in partnership with Israel View that as an absolute disaster.

    So they ended the agreement. Which basically opened the door for a Iran to enrich uranium.

    Israel has been wanting to bomb Iranian nuclear production sites for decades.

    All those sites are underground.

    The only country with the ability to bomb shit underground and destroy it is the United States.

    One of the most dynamic military leaders in the history of man was an Iranian general who organized and managed that broad coalition of different organizations against Israel. It really is a feat and how well he managed and did all that.

    The US military killed him in an airstrike.

    The US military has destroyed……. Well, bombed a number of the facilities that iran is enriching or uranium in.

    The US military has also killed a number of the political leaders in Iran that’s what’s really messy.

    You have to leave the guys alive to turn things off…. There’s no one left to turn things off

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      HOLY SHIT. That is much worse tham I thought, i groaned when I read about the inspector being overturned. How did he justify that? Thanks for explaining that I’ve saved the comment.

      How the fuck can USA get out of this?

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      You forgot the bit where they’re trying to distract everyone from the Epstein files and the bit where they literally have no plan.

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        Yeah, as much as the Internet wants to believe otherwise I don’t think the Epstein Files are really all that important to anyone in any power.

        You are correct. Nobody involved here has a plan. I mean Israel’s stated Objectiveis total victory yet Netanyahu’s Governmentcan’t articulate. What the hell that is…

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          I don’t think the Epstein Files are really all that important to anyone in any power.

          On the contrary - I think if Iran released any of the blackmail on trump that supposedly exists, things would take a wild turn.

          However, I do concede this is likely an optimistic view

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          You know very well Israel plan is to destroy Iran as a state so it can’t never function again and so that they accomplish the greater israel project

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      Don’t believe anything this guy say. Israel want to destroy Iran so it can create a greater israel with no resistance

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        Oh i apologize if my post paints isreal in a good light. There are no good guys here.

        I am going out that at the top of my post.

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          Regardless of how bad iran is . It is Israel the settler colonial power who want to get rid of Iran to steal more land from Iran, Lebanon, Egypt, Jordan , Syria, Saudi Arabia and Iraq. Don’t waste your time with more dumb propaganda. Iran never planed to build nukes although maybe they will considered it now since israel want to create a failed state in Iran