It’s been a stereotype for at least the last 50 years. Why has this never changed? Why has organized labor not had a substantial effect for such an essential part of the workforce?

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    Douglas worked for the best possible candidate, not the perfect one. According to you “They don’t care enough that by voting for the lesser evil, they’re actively culpable of the system getting more evil after every election.”

    By your way of thinking, Douglas was happy to let slavery go on and you are more moral than him because you aim for perfection.

    I was actually lucky enough to have met and been taught by old school Communists; folks who actually went to fight Franco in Spain and got blacklisted in the 1950s. One thing they always talked about was the 1968 election. The real Lefties were pushing for Humphrey, because they knew how bad Nixon was. The young folks then thought that Humphrey wasn’t as good as McCarthy and stayed home of did protest votes.

    Your ‘ethics’ remind me of the folks who will let the mother die, rather than let her get an abortion.

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      I’m not convinced that voting for genocide and mass extinction is OK, and I’ve looked at arguments in favor of them like the lesser-evil. I may be too stupid to understand the arguments in favor of them, but I don’t think I’m being a perfectionist because I actually disagree with many things in Green and socialist platforms - but they’re not things that cross the line for me.

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        I may be too stupid to understand the arguments in favor of them,

        You are. It’s that simple.

        Frederick Douglas worked for Lincoln knowing that Lincoln wasn’t planning on ending slavery. Douglas figured it was better to win with Lincoln and be at the table than to lose and have no say whatever.

        Unless you can prove you are smarter or more moral than Douglas, you should follow his lead.